Bahe Rock | Ceremony Is More Than a Self-Help Session
Bahe Rock, Truthout: "When I first read about the deaths in a hotel parking lot sweat lodge in Arizona a couple of weeks ago I was saddened, but not surprised. I was dismayed over the abuse of Native American sacred ceremony in such a dreadful and destructive way. As a Dine raised to respect and participate in our spiritual teachings and ceremonies, and as a person who has observed an increase in the co-optation of our religion, I am compelled to speak out."
Whose Religion?
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October 30 2009, 03:46:37 UTC 11 years ago
My suggestion to the followers of these thieves of sacred ways is to leave things alone that don't belong to you. This simple truth should have been taught to you by your mothers and grandmothers in childhood. I remember the things my mother taught me, even at this stage in my adult life. If you want to be spiritual and follow a spiritual path, go to your own churches and temples, or follow the Sunday morning televangelists if you are intent on throwing away money for faith.
The sweatlodge situation aside for one moment... what on earth is "my own" church and temple? I presume that this means I should attend a Christian church or a synagogue (the unspoken bit here being 'because I am white.') That's balderdash. I understand that it's frustrating and hurtful to have ones faith "misappropriated," but it's just kind of the natural evolution OF faith and religion. If no one ever "misappropriated" anyone else, the Protestants would not have come from the Catholics. History tells us that just because those religion purloin-ers (or thieves to use this authors wording) started off WITHIN the (racial) fold didn't make the outrage and fallout any less bitter.
What happened and what is happening is wrong, but there's a fine fine line here between protecting your faith and inhibiting others in their spiritual journeys.
October 30 2009, 04:26:28 UTC 11 years ago
Why is this offensive to you? Just asking.
October 30 2009, 04:54:59 UTC 11 years ago Edited: October 30 2009, 04:56:25 UTC
I suppose on answer I could offer you is that I grew up in a split household. I was more or less brought up in an Anglican church. My little sisters and my stepmother, however, were Jewish. While my step mother was a non practicing Jew, she came from a conservative family and tended to view her religious practices as racial traits This stance rather reminds me of the treatment in this article of Native American practices. I was therefore flatly discouraged from pursuing any Jewish religious or spiritual practices.
At the same time, I had lost my Christian faith and practices before I really even had them, simply because I could not accept that the divinity of Jesus meant my Jewish family could not find salvation. In essence, I was a spiritual nomad per force when I was barely 6, and I don't think there was really any reason for that. Again, there's that fine line. I understand the proprietorship of (some) Jewish people of their faith just as I do Native American faith, but I hate to see people who are REALLY seeking turned away because others are looking for a quick metaphysical fix.
Thoughts
October 30 2009, 05:07:46 UTC 11 years ago
1) I don't feel that my ancestors can dictate my choice of religion. I don't necessarily identify with a culture or religion just because it happens to be (or have been) practiced by people from the same genetic pool. Some of them frankly sucked. I believe that religion should be a conscious choice, made freely, not forced upon anyone from outside.
2) Some places have energy and spirits of their own. As people migrate around the world, they may encounter new spirits and come to a mutual enjoyment of each other's company. If the land and spirits have a preference as to how they wish to be reverenced, and the current residents are amenable to that, it is a relationship worth pursuing.
3) Anything with power tends to have protections; this applies to plants, religions, magical systems, and many other things. Frivolous or careless use of powerful items or activities can cause harm and is foolish.
4) It is not okay to hurt other people in pursuit of your own needs and be oblivious to the mayhem caused.
Re: Thoughts
October 30 2009, 05:22:17 UTC 11 years ago Edited: October 30 2009, 05:23:03 UTC
But... said another way, religion is a cultural aspect as well as a personal one. Like all cultural things, it needs to be respected and approached with caution born out of the desire to understand rather than appropriate or commit offensive acts. Perhaps a slightly different way of putting it, but it gets us to the same place. Be careful. Do no harm.
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October 30 2009, 05:36:11 UTC 11 years ago
That's why we are against cultural appropriation. It is not cool to take from other people's religions/faiths/belief systems, without knowing what kind of consequences it would engender.
Re: Thoughts
October 30 2009, 05:53:54 UTC 11 years ago
If Person A practices a religion which was historically done by the ancestors of Person B, then Person B may have their feelings hurt because this adds to oppression.
If Person A dictates what religion(s) Person B may or may not practice, then Person B may have their feelings hurt and be spiritually stifled.
We are left with this obnoxious mess because a bunch of long-ago dead people did vile and inexcusable things to each other. We therefore have to figure out ways to do less harm to each other.
One idea I've found useful is that spirituality evolves, and you get out of a practice what you put into it. So for instance, one of my totems is Wolf. I don't just "say" that and decorate my home with wolves; I also work to protect wolf habitat and discourage people from killing wolves. The more I learn about wolves, the better I can connect with this totem; and the more I do for wolves, the happier Wolf is and the more likely I am to get a favorable answer if I ask for help.
Off topic: Tesla's spirit radio
October 30 2009, 04:50:09 UTC 11 years ago
October 30 2009, 05:57:09 UTC 11 years ago
Frankly, I suspect that the mental state of most participants was altered in the direction of "worn out and unable to think" instead of "ecstatic vision trance". Shoulda just passed out drugs if forcing people to have visions was so damned important. I mean, isn't that what happens in real practice when the vision is more important than the ceremony? Nevermind legality, most Westerners simply do not have the kind of endurance to hold up through several days in the desert with adequate supplies! At least feed and water 'em properly before you try to cook 'em again!
November 3 2009, 06:47:07 UTC 11 years ago
October 30 2009, 15:07:31 UTC 11 years ago
I grew up in the area, around the Dine and the Hopi and the Utes. That means I had friends who did know such things. I can construct a sweat lodge for my own purposes but I would never, ever invite someone else along. It's such a spiritual experience that to do so would be a travesty.
Thoughts
October 30 2009, 17:08:39 UTC 11 years ago
In our coven, we enjoy exploring different magical and spiritual techniques. Some are things we've read about, especially things that have lots of conflicting descriptions -- we like to test different options and compare the results. Some are things we've invented on our own, like the hand-to-hand circle casting. We customarily test new ideas with a small group, in private, usually at an esbat (which is coven-members-only). That gives us a chance to work out any bugs before we introduce the technique at an open sabbat. We do research as needed. We have some safety features, like appointing a Fire Keeper if we are doing a bonfire. So we have a pretty good record of successful rituals, with only a couple of occasions where things got slightly out of hand and we needed to damp them down -- and we're celebrating our 13th anniversary of doing rituals here, on Saturday.
Re: Thoughts
October 30 2009, 18:20:55 UTC 11 years ago
I read about the sweat lodge and thought the whole concept and its execution were horrifying. That man sounds like a fraud and a criminal and of course he should stand trial for manslaughter, at the very least (is there a distinction between murder and manslaughter in American law?)
And I can understand the anger at the whites for assuming the mantle of such faux-spirituality. When they have already taken so much of Native American heritage and culture, it must be galling to watch.
Re: Thoughts
November 3 2009, 06:46:17 UTC 11 years ago
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October 30 2009, 19:13:36 UTC 11 years ago
I am trained regarding sweat lodges but only as far as what is to be done for myself. The exposure I had was in a setting for healing for myself and thus I wouldn't try it with someone else.
Not only did this guy not have the proper training, but he ignored some pretty basic protocols. Even the Native peoples who use sweat lodges provide egress if it gets too hot inside and have drink stations outside. You're invited to leave as you need to, to drink water heavily, and to rinse yourself down if you need to do so. From the accounts I've read, this guy not only didn't have any watchers (people who aren't participating whose job it is to make sure the people who are doing so are safe) but actively blocked people from leaving and urged them to stay far beyond their endurance.
I don't even want to get into proper construction material and methods; the stuff he used was dangerous and inadequate to the task.
Yet another reason, as you said, that you MUST know what you're doing before you try teaching it to others. And the primary reason why I would never sweat with anyone: I know what to do for me, but I haven't a clue how to lead someone else in the experience or keep them safe.