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Brave New Films Hits The Healthcare Industry Hard

I'm impressed with this video which presents some of what's wrong with the health care industry in America today. Specifically, it reveals how much money some of the top executives make, and compares these amounts to the cost of health care denied by the insurance company. One number that caught my ear was the president of UnitedHealth Care making one out of every $700 spent on health care. This is a ruthless demonstration of how the industry leaves people to suffer and die so that CEOs can live in luxury. It is much like an aristocracy of abused serfs and parasitic nobles, only one based more on money than genealogy (although current marriage practices of the rich are aimed at concentrating their wealth through dynastic means).

If you are among the lucky insured ... this is the system your money is supporting. If you or someone in your family suddenly becomes ill or injured, do you believe that your insurance agency will promptly and agreeably pay for all medically necessary goods and services? Or will they simply pocket all the money you've given them and ignore your pleas for help? Imagine arguing with a penny-pincher for the life of your child. And then realize that it is not imagination, but brutal reality for many Americans today. Realize that if you have been well served by your insurance company, as some people have, you are lucky. Will you stay lucky forever?

This is not how I want my country to be. Profiting from the suffering and death of others is evil. Not only does it spread illness and death, it also damages the people who profit from it, because dehumanizing and mistreating human beings is soul-rotting. A society that treats people as commodities, whose value is measured only by their wealth, is not a very safe or healthy place to live. We can do better than this. If America wants to "be #1" then we had better catch up to the rest of the civilized nations who have already figured out various ways to provide health care to all their citizens, all of which cost less than the wretched mess we are currently supporting.

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"Profiting from the suffering and death of others is evil"
It is a common fallacy that healthcare companies are doing just that.

But what about profiting from the alleviating of suffering and the prolonging of life? Isn't that what they are supposed to be doing?
In theory, they should be alleviating suffering, which is a laudable thing; and if they could profit from that, it would be fine. In practice, they are doing such an inferior job that America, once a leading nation in providing health care to its citizens, is now behind dozens of other nations. This inclines me to think that the people in power within this industry while that happened are incompetent.
I'm not so sure you are so far behind! I think you have some of the best health care in the world for those who are insured. Your academic institutions are second to none, and your doctors are key opinion leaders in almost every area of medicine.

It just needs to spread a little further.
America has the best health care in the world for the wealthy. Even people who are insured frequently find, at the worst possible time, that their policy does not cover what they thought it did -- or that it should, but the company refuses and refuses to pay what it owes.

You are certainly right that it needs to be spread around more.
The amount of profits is ridiculous. There is no way that stuff costs even half what they're charging people for!
I'm afraid it does, on average. I've been working in the pharma industry for 22 years and I've seen the calculations. However, Americans pay 50% more on average than other people for drugs. In other countries, "socialised" healthcare systems negotiate tough prices with the pharma companies. In the US, the HMOs don't, presumably because they have no particular interest in keeping costs down.
I think I heard that Obama's plan doesn't include negotiating with "pharma" companies about prices. Which makes sense, given America's policy of not negotiating with terrorists...
Obama doesn't have a plan. (I think that was a mistake.) Congress has several plans under consideration. At least one of them bans negotiation. That offends me; I'm very much against creating a captive audience. The health care industry is doing a great job of boobytrapping the plans so they will fail. And the same people who are saying that government-run health care would be bad due to lack of competition are also doing everything they can to destroy competition for the reigning companies.
That was egregiously nasty. Just think of us as providing the tools thst doctors need to battle disease. Without the pharma industry most of us would not lead long and healthy lives.
Name-calling is unfair, I agree.

Modern health care requires safe, effective, and affordable drugs. Medication that, for whatever reason, fails to reach people who need it is no more useful than medication that doesn't exist. I understand that someone needs to produce the drugs we use. But I am deeply, bitterly dissatisfied with the overall performance of American companies in this regard. When I look at other countries that are getting better health care for less money, that makes me feel angry and envious. I want everyone to have access to good, affordable health care and a job that makes enough money to live on. When I see a mess like America today, I want to change it, and I think there are many things about the drug companies that need to be changed. As a consumer, I do not feel that they are adequately meeting my needs or the needs of other people in America.
This is not about American companies - the same multinational pharma companies (Pfizer, J&J, Novartis, Lilly, Roche etc.,) are charging lots of money in the US, and a lot less in France, Canada and Australia. The only reason for the difference in price is that the governments of these other countries are tough negotiators and impose harsh pricing and reimbursement regulations. American HMOs do not, so the pharma companies get the best price they can.

You can take it too far; in Canada, Australia and New Zealand, the pricing and reimbursement rules are so tough that pharma companies sometimes decide not to launch their products there, and the people of those countries are deprived of the newest and best products.

Obama absolutely should look into drug pricing.

>>This is not about American companies - the same multinational pharma companies (Pfizer, J&J, Novartis, Lilly, Roche etc.,) are charging lots of money in the US, and a lot less in France, Canada and Australia.<<

Then they are simply ripping people off because they can, and that makes me even angrier.

>>You can take it too far; in Canada, Australia and New Zealand, the pricing and reimbursement rules are so tough that pharma companies sometimes decide not to launch their products there, and the people of those countries are deprived of the newest and best products.<<

I don't think that's right either. I think that prices should be fair all around, so that people can get what they need.

>>Obama absolutely should look into drug pricing.<<

I wish that would happen. Unfortunately, drug companies are spending millions of dollars on advertising (much of it dishonest) and, frankly, bribes to block attempts at anything that might bring down the prices of prescription drugs in America.

Clearly it is possible to make and sell drugs at a reasonable price through an effective system. Other countries have found ways of achieving this. So should we.
At randsom prices...
I suspect the idea was that American drug prices are grossly overinflated, somewhere along the line, compared to drug prices in civilized nations.

Re: Hmm...

Anonymous

August 15 2009, 20:14:21 UTC 11 years ago

You pay about 50% extra compared with most developed countries.

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