Efforts to make isms into wasms frequently bog down because the game is rigged. The isms have all built arrays of Catch-22 traps that would make old Grimtooth proud. For example:
If a woman is sexually enthusiastic, she's considered a slut.
If a woman is sexually unenthusiasic, she's considered frigid.
If a man tries to treat a woman like a lady (such as opening doors, paying for the date, etc.) then he's considered sexist.
If a man tries to treat a woman like he would treat another man (expecting her to do all that stuff for herself) then he's considered unromantic.
If a dark-skinned person speaks out against a racist incident, that's considered "being hostile."
If a dark-skinned person doesn't speak out against a racist incident, that's considered "being okay with it."
If a fair-skinned person writes/draws/sings about dark-skinned characters/traditions/objects/beliefs/ideas, that's considered "cultural misappropriation."
If a fair-skinned person does not write/draw/sing about dark-skinned characters/traditions/objects/beliefs/ideas, that's considered "making people of color invisible."
There is no unmarked case. There is no way to win. Everything you do will be considered wrong. Somebody will always wind up criticizing you no matter what you do; someone will always feel that they have a right to butt in and condemn you and what you're doing and your whole worldview, and to tell you what you ought to be doing instead and why your opinions or experiences are irrelevant. The system is designed that way.
Why is it designed that way?
Because we built it like that. The human species, across our widely assorted cultures, has built so many examples of rigged games run by advantaged groups that when a group looks around for examples, that's pretty much what they see -- so then they build a new game rigged in their favor, because it looks like that's how cultural games are supposed to be built here.
There is a very human tempation, when one has been harassed and stepped on, to get even when one has the upper hand. A bunch of women together will gripe about how awful men are; a bunch of men together will gripe about how awful women are. How many times will a woman listen to men criticize her sexuality before she tells them to go hang, and pulls her battery-operated boyfriend out of the drawer? How many times will a man try to navigate the rocky shoals of pleasing women before he gives up and hires a professional? Fair-skinned people will leverage things so that the work of fixing race dynamics is the responsibility of dark-skinned people. Dark-skinned people will clump together and stomp on fair-skinned people who try to touch the issue of race dynamics. How many times will a dark-skinned person try to handle the hot topic before throwing up their hands and letting it lie there in a steaming reeking pile? How many times will a fair-skinned person try to find a delicate way of discussing matters before giving up to duck and cover? Some people have the determination to keep going, but a lot of people don't, and even the ones who keep going get tired sometimes. That all creates a lot of inertia against change.
What can you do? The game is rigged. Dismantling any part of it is very difficult, and the blasted thing is self-repairing. It's like the Terminator -- you pretty much have to blow it in half and then lure the twitching bits into an industrial press to make it stop moving.
One thing that helps is simply recognizing that it's a system designed to create failure. When there is no safe path -- una salus victus. Don't hope for safety. Just try to get through the hazardous terrain, and when you have the opportunity, do what you can to make it a little less hazardous for those who come after.
Another thing that helps is knowledge. Study how the human mind works, how human cultures work, and as many versions of history as you can get your hands on. Understand what is happening, where it's coming from, and you will be better equipped to handle it.
Realize that we are all only human. We make mistakes. But when someone is honestly trying to do a right thing -- even if they botch it -- try to give them credit for making the effort. Otherwise, why should anyone try? The systems of oppression are designed to teach people not to try, but that too can fail. We can make it fail by giving others, and ourselves, a chance to work through the tangles.
Accept that you will get tired, that you will not always have the energy to do the patient thing or the gracious thing or anything at all. If possible, stop and take a break. Step back from the controversy for a while. If you're stuck in the midst of it, then just keep going as best you can, and even if things crash and burn all around you, at least you will know that you did the best you could with what you had.
Seek allies along the path, those who are like you and those who are different. Help them in their struggles so they may help your in yours. Watch for the patterns, learn, and take comfort in each other's companionship.
Believe that there is more to the world than conflict and controversy. For humans can be as sublime as we are vile, and virtue is our guiding star through all shadow.
Re: Thoughts
August 3 2009, 07:57:22 UTC 11 years ago
And, yes, some humans are satisfied with "It's the right thing to do."
Re: Thoughts
August 4 2009, 21:09:03 UTC 11 years ago
I do agree that asking you to swallow your hurt in silence would be an awful thing to ask.
As to spending your life teaching people the same things over and over, I totally agree that you should have the right to not need to do so.
However, each person must learn things individually. And life being what it is, there will always be gaps in everyone's knowledge, even on issues we care passionately about.
If you will indulge me in an imperfect analogy, I would appreciate it, since I have experiences that are, in some ways, similar to yours. (I am not trying to equate our lives here, just to find enough similarity to, hopefully, allow us to understand each others' lives and words better.)
I don't live in, and will never get to live in, a world where I can explain being queer just once and be done with it. I, too, get frustrated when someone obviously needs to hear something I've said over and over.
But I also know that not speaking means no change. We have a saying, "silence=death". Because of people speaking up, risking being raped and killed, losing jobs and being cast out of their families, those dangers have lessened over the years.
Also, I know how valuable allies are to the work being done to correct prejudice against GLBT people. It has been and still is very important that these straight people speak up in person and in public.
The thing is, I know that most of them became allies only after someone (usually more than once) sat down with them one-on-one, to say things that had been said a dozen or a hundred or a thousand times before.
No, you should not have to do that on race issues. Yes, you should get to simply get on with your own life.
In an ideal world, no one would have to put their own life on hold for an hour or three to explain things for the hundredth time. But we don't live in an ideal world, and people do need to learn some things one-on-one, from someone that they like, respect, and trust. Therefore, it is important work.
It is, of course, your choice as to whether it is your work.
As to your potential allies, I know that sometimes white people care about race issues very much, but are afraid to speak up, especially in public, because they see such a huge amount of criticism and anger directed at people who do try to be allies. Perhaps they are simply afraid of facing a storm of emotion caused by a chain of events that started before they were even born. Perhaps they feel their voice is useless because they are not completely educated on the issues. Perhaps they fear that in trying to make things better, they will instead cause more pain and stress for the very people they want to help.
Now, I can't answer your concern as to it's worth the effort it would take for you to welcome these people to stand up with you. Like I said, it's an imperfect analogy.
But GLBT people did not reduce the prejudices against us by becoming a majority, we did it by welcoming the people who wanted to be allies and by working to find additional allies and make them feel welcome. Oh, there was (and is) some yelling too--but I think that consistently extended hands of friendship won over a lot more people.
I can't judge whether my analogy speaks to whether people of color need allies in the same way GLBT people need them. Like I said, I knew from the start that it's an imperfect analogy.
But I hope me sharing this bit of my experience gives you a basis to understand why I think it is important for me to take time from my life to, yet again, say things I've already said over and over, when I find someone whose life and experiences have been very different from mine, but who nonetheless is willing to listen. Someone who might or might not become a vocal ally, but who at least may become a friend.
And why I very much appreciate the eforts of people of color who are willing to similarly take time, to have one-on-one conversations, to share their lives and explain their concerns.
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August 5 2009, 15:56:56 UTC 11 years ago
Re: Thoughts
August 6 2009, 00:33:44 UTC 11 years ago
But it's like being queer and Pagan (I am both). You get one person with more than one area to be disrespected in, and each impacts a person's life in a variety of ways. My personal experience is that the ways the two affect a person are mostly (but not all) similar; but I also know that other people's experience is not necessarily the same. Being female is another area where I have experienced prejudice, and again, the experience has been similar in some but not all ways, at least for me.
I haven't talked to many queer people of color about how they experience the prejudices they face from being queer as compared to how they experience the prejudices they face being people of color. So I don't assume I know how similar or different it is for them.
Also, the knowledge I do have, from people I know personally or have read, might or might not match the experience of the person I was talking to. After all, I know very little about him/her other than that his/her impression of the original poster's meaning and intent was very different from mine.
Therefore I wanted to stick to one topic, and to be clear that I was speaking from my own experiences. I also wanted to be very clear that I am not assuming his/her experience is the same as mine.
Does that help you to understand where I'm coming from, a little?
Re: Thoughts
August 6 2009, 02:34:55 UTC 11 years ago
Prejudice: individual act of discrimination because of a particular trait.
Homophobia: institutional and/or personal acts of discrimination based on a person`s sexual orientation, which may or may not be visible to the casual observer, and which is very often not a constant factor in someone`s daily life - especially in urban 21st Century America. As a queer white woman in LA, I experience direct homophobia pretty much never, other than the fact that they keep annulling my marriage, and our health insurance is wicked expensive.
Racism: Unrelenting systemic, institutional, cultural and/or personal acts of discrimination based on hundreds of years of white oppression, enslavement, murder, dehumanization, exotification, imperialism, theft from, and exploitation of people of color. The commonly accepted definition of racism is prejudice plus institutional power. People of color are affected by racism every day, all the time, in a myriad number of ways that white people could never imagine.
You may experience prejudice, sexism, or homophobia (though let`s be serious here, I have never heard of anyone being pulled over for Driving While Wiccan), but you have not and will never know what it is like to experience racism. Racism is not "just like" being queer and pagan. To casually presume otherwise is an act of extreme, offensive privilege.
Speaking as if being queer and being POC are mutually exclusive completely erases the reality of queer POC and minimizes racism, especially the rampant racism within the queer community. This is another act of privilege.
Demanding that POC cater to the delicate sensibilities of white people, that they be available for offensive, repetitive, ignorant "teaching moments" on demand, but of course all without the slightest hint of anger or frustration (OHAI the Tone Argument), then justifying your demands with a tired "but I am just as oppressed as you are, why can"t you validate meeee?" is privilege on an epic scale.
Does that help you to understand where I am coming from, a little?
Re: Thoughts
August 6 2009, 06:16:39 UTC 11 years ago
I--No. I should stop.
I very much want an end to racism, and to prejudice of all types, institutionalized and individual. I hope I can in some way help to end it or at least reduce it in my lifetime.
My reasons do include having experienced prejudice in my own life, even though my experiences have not been as severe or scary as many others. However, I do not have to have personally experienced all forms of institutionalized and individual prejudice to know it is wrong and to want to be a part of stopping it.
I do not think it is unique, or original, or even interesting to want to end racism and other forms of prejudice. But it is right.
As to sounding like a textbook, I was raised by English teachers. I've been teased all my life for sounding like one (except at jobs where that's part of why they hired me).
I am sorry my words distressed you--both you, epilady, and you, any other reader out there who feels the same.
I do not demand anyone's time, especially on this topic. (This includes "I do not demand any reply to these words".) But I do appreciate it when people choose to gift me with a bit of their time.
Thank you for taking time from your life to write to me.
And again, my apologies.
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August 6 2009, 06:26:08 UTC 11 years ago
It is the custom in this blog to treat other people's opinions and perspectives with respect. You don't have to agree with them, but it's not acceptable to dismiss them or make personal attacks. I'm glad that this thread has people so interested. I'd like the discussion to stay civil.
Re: Thoughts
August 6 2009, 06:34:05 UTC 11 years ago
Part 1 (this is the first time I've exceeded comment limit!)
August 9 2009, 07:14:11 UTC 11 years ago
Here are some quotes from the OP's post and comments:
This post is advocating that if a white person stops caring (about trying to fight racism) because they are criticized (for doing or saying something racist), it's totally fine and understandable (it's a fact that
white peoplehumans just can't be expected to not be selfish and cruel!), and people of color should not get mad. Because white people's honest belief that they actually did a great job, even if that is not true, should be protected. Because if they tried, it doesn't matter if they utterly failed. People of color should "give them credit for making the effort."Maybe that would make sense if we were talking about, like, a three-year-old trying to draw a pony, and the consequences of messing up are... a crappy drawing of a pony. But dude, we're grown-ups, and racism is about people of color's lives. Do you see how this advice is all about protecting white people from ever having to realize that they are racist? Do you see how the unspoken threat is that if people of color don't want their allies to abandon them, they better shut up, and yes, swallow the hurt in silence?
But I also know that not speaking means no change. We have a saying, "silence=death". Because of people speaking up, risking being raped and killed, losing jobs and being cast out of their families, those dangers have lessened over the years.
Yeah, definitely. Don't you think it's pretty annoying when straight people are all like, "What? You're criticizing me for saying [blah blah something horribly homophobic]? HOW DARE YOU. I AM NOT A HOMOPHOBE. I tried to be tolerant but I guess you don't want my help! Fine! I give up!!" Maybe no one's said that to you, but it would suck if they did, right? They would sound like they think being criticized is worse than being homophobic. They wouldn't sound like any kind of ally worth wasting your time on.
Re: Part 1 (this is the first time I've exceeded comment limit!)
August 9 2009, 20:12:40 UTC 11 years ago
I find it harder to deal with this, emotionally anyway, coming from a gay person than a straight one. The gay person knows what it's like to have the world pretend you don't exist, you don't matter--so why would they turn around and do that to someone else?
Sigh.
As to your exact question, if someone is totally offended that I think they are a homophobe, and I think their offense is honest, then I probably do want them as an ally.
If they are really offended, that tells me that they are probably not homophobic, and that they didn't mean to offend or hurt anyone. When that's true, it generally means that they don't want to do it again.
But they're doomed to do it again if they don't learn something from our encounter.
I have had lesson after lesson in this life in just how different people are--not in visible stuff like skin color or who they are attracted to, but in how their brains work. Things that are obvious to me are often obscure to other people, and I can't count the number of times I've gotten into trouble for "deliberately ignoring" something that was obvious to someone else, but not to me. And even people whose brains work similarly can have learned different definitions and different associations for various words and phrases.
My parents were once arguing about how to fix a window. They happened to be standing in the hallway, blocking both the doorway to the living room and the hallway to the kitchen. The argument was so heated that I went outside and all the way around the house to get to the kitchen, rather than walk between them. Eventually, they figured out that they were both advocating doing exactly the same thing to the window--but using different words!
It doesn't have to be about race for someone to say something that they mean to be supportive, and have a listener think they mean something totally different.
If someone's words are homophobic, but they didn't mean them that way, I know that in a one-on-one conversation I stand a good chance of explaining it to them. Which means I have a chance to make the world a little safer, a chance to keep this one person from hurting someone else, accidentally.
They may never become allies who can speak gracefully in public for the cause, but private speech matters too. And allies can also help in other ways. Donations, for instance, or practical help. Even understanding the nice-sounding words politicians use to indicate that they're unfriendly to queer causes can change the way someone votes in an election (like "pro-family").
I think the thing that has affected me the most about Martin Luther King's teachings is that when someone hits you, it can hurt your cause for you to hit back. As a child with a very quick temper, it astounded me that people could bring themselves, while being beaten, to just quietly sit down and hunch around their faces, hands, and bellies instead of yelling or hitting back. But it worked! Facing violence with non-violence, standing up and speaking up (and then, if necessary, sitting down) for the cause worked!
I think this lesson also applies when people use words that hurt me. Yes, it's important for me to stand up for what's right, to correct misconceptions and express my feelings and experiences. But it's also important to not use my words as a weapon, to not use my words to hit back.
And often that doesn't seem fair! But it was hugely not fair for people to have to sit, nonviolent, while being beaten.
Remembering those heroes helps me to stick to my resolve to do my best when I do get a chance, in some small way, to reduce the amount of prejudice in the world.
Part 2
August 9 2009, 07:16:11 UTC 11 years ago
But... if white people feel that way, they shouldn't speak in public about race issues! Like I said, I'm white, and I used to think all those things, and those are the thoughts of someone who is very uneducated on race and white privilege and how to be an ally. The first step to learning about race, as a white person, is to STFU and listen. A person of color never educated me personally; I just lurked around the internet, reading essays that have already been written & reading the reactions to posts like this one. I had great intentions, but I was ignorant, and I probably would have said a bunch of hurtful racist shit if I had spoken up. (As it was, I let a bunch of hurtful, racist shit go unchallenged... you have to balance "STFU and listen" with the fact that while we can decide not to deal with racism, people of color never can. That's white privilege right there. Don't use being uneducated as an excuse not to do anything -- go educate yourself.)
This post is saying that a totally ignorant white person should have the right to say hurtful, racist shit in public without ever getting criticized. Apart from the toll this takes on PoC (which is the most important thing), if people followed this, I would never have realized that I had more to learn.
And actually? In my experience, people of color *are* welcoming to white people who try to be allies. They are incredibly patient; they explain things. One problem with the tone argument (i.e. people would listen if only you were nicer) is that it's a totally unfair demand and racism itself is rude and violent. The other problem is that people of color can try as hard as they can to be polite and assume good intentions, but they will always (ALWAYS) get told to be nicer (see here (http://zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com/429092.html?thread=1548836#t1548836)). It's not helpful advice, it's a defensive reaction to take the focus off the white person's racism and put it on the PoC.
But GLBT people did not reduce the prejudices against us by becoming a majority, we did it by welcoming the people who wanted to be allies and by working to find additional allies and make them feel welcome. Oh, there was (and is) some yelling too--but I think that consistently extended hands of friendship won over a lot more people.
You know about the Civil Rights movement, right? Have you ever read MLK's Letter from a Birmingham Jail (http://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html)? Sometimes "allies" do more harm than good.
If you want to start learning, try these links:
http://fixracism.com/ (5 ways to end racism)
Baby-stepping away from racism: A guide for white people (http://paradox-dragon.livejournal.com/52963.html)
Re: Part 2
August 9 2009, 17:43:28 UTC 11 years ago
As to the original post, I don't see the original poster as saying it's OK to give up--I see her primary point as being that feeling discouraged is understandable. Feelings and actions are not the same thing, and "giving up" is an action. She also observes that some people do give up, but IMHO she does not advocate doing so. In contrast, she spends a lot of words on how to not let these feelings have the final say.
After a lot of words about the things that can discourage someone, and how to keep your spirits up anyway, she says, "then just keep going as best you can." If she was advocating that white people should just return to an all-white world and hide behind white privilege, then there would be no need to talk about feeling attacked and reviled and discouraged, and how to "keep going" anyway.
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As to critiques and tone, in other situations I've seen plenty of times where the tone of a critique makes a huge difference in whether someone hears the substance of said critique.
Mostly, anger creates defensiveness, which creates a situation where the substance is not thought about, just reflexively rejected. (I don't like this fact, but in my experience, it's is a predictable part of human nature: Most of the time, someone automatically and forcibly rejects something--anything--that they perceive as attacking them. They might attack back or shield, but either way they don't listen.)
In contrast, I have also seen plenty of instances where it was the anger itself which got a particular person to notice that there's a problem and to believe it's important enough that they should stop whatever they're doing long enough to listen.
These experiences make me strongly doubt the idea that tone doesn't matter when talking about racism.
Certainly, I don't think that POC (or anyone else) should never express their anger, their frustration, and so on. That's just another way that silence=death.
And I also think that the "nicest" way to express feelings is often ineffective; I do not advocate always trying to be "nice".
Because it does matter how feelings are expressed. It matters a lot.
I think that the most effective expressions of anger are the ones where the speaker's feelings are made clear, but are not phrased as an attack on the person or people they are speaking to. The ones that get the listener, no matter how different that listener's own experiences have been, to empathize with the speaker--to feel that anger with the speaker, knowing in their heart that the anger is justified.
Anger is a very powerful emotion. Anger is the emotion that says something's wrong, that it has to change! Expressed, anger can help change things that are very well-entrenched. But it should be used carefully. It's worse than wasted if it's used in a way that reinforces the things that one is, with good reason, angry about.