Car Evolution
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Managed Retreat
I'm pleased to see someone else admitting that not all cities can stay where they are. This article gives several examples of how cities could adapt…
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Conformity
Here's an article about conformity and evil. Now, we know that most humans are contextual and that evil spreads readily. But it leaves out…
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Killer Asteroids
There are a lot of them, and without advance preparation, Earth is defenseless. We need to get the Umbrella up.
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Managed Retreat
I'm pleased to see someone else admitting that not all cities can stay where they are. This article gives several examples of how cities could adapt…
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Conformity
Here's an article about conformity and evil. Now, we know that most humans are contextual and that evil spreads readily. But it leaves out…
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Killer Asteroids
There are a lot of them, and without advance preparation, Earth is defenseless. We need to get the Umbrella up.
July 28 2016, 19:40:54 UTC 4 years ago
Which is a large plus in favour of older 'classic' cars.
Yes...
July 29 2016, 00:18:46 UTC 4 years ago
I can't avoid the new ones, but I dislike them enough to reduce my use of them.
Re: Yes...
July 29 2016, 00:31:14 UTC 4 years ago
Still, the number of pre-1980's cars available isn't bad, and the price for a low mileage one is reasonable. Heck, some insurance companies even give you discounts for 'classics'.
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July 29 2016, 01:12:06 UTC 4 years ago
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July 29 2016, 01:27:06 UTC 4 years ago
Younger buyers are the main-stay of the second-hand market, but with it being uneconomic to keep a beater running... well, like you say. It's a downwards spiral from there. Hence the rise of Uber I suppose.
I'd imagine the end result will be the death of capitalism, the companies will either evolve away from consumer exploitation as their business model, or go under as the market collapses.
Which is going to be problem though...at least in the states, because so much of your infrastructure and social structure is wedded to the status quo, it's going to be hard-to-impossible to do anything else, and that's where the vested interests don't make it down-right illegal. [e.g tiny homes and their illegality for example.]
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July 29 2016, 02:09:02 UTC 4 years ago
That's part of a wider and equally disturbing trend of "you don't own what you buy." Generally speaking, if I'm not going to own a product, I won't pay for it. The exception is certain types of rentable service equipment that may need to be upgraded at unpredictable intervals, like ISP hardware. If it's not absolutely crucial, fuck it. If it's crucial, the company doesn't get my support, they get my very grudging endurance, and I always keep my eye out for better options. But I worry about things like TV going from a one-time expense to an ongoing one, and many computer programs the same way. It's a problem because it runs up the baseline of fixed monthly expenses in a household, at a time when real incomes are falling. Asking people to do more with less never ends well.
>> Younger buyers are the main-stay of the second-hand market, but with it being uneconomic to keep a beater running... well, like you say. It's a downwards spiral from there. Hence the rise of Uber I suppose. <<
Which is why people keep attacking all these alternatives; they don't want to lose their customer base. Except you can't have customers if people don't have money, and if people can't find some way to get shit done, then your whole society falls apart. Which is what's happening.
>>I'd imagine the end result will be the death of capitalism, the companies will either evolve away from consumer exploitation as their business model, or go under as the market collapses. <<
This would not surprise me. If a system doesn't meet people's needs, they will tear it apart and replace it with something they hope will do better. Capitalism is currently manifesting all the problems that socialists and communists predicted, which are as obvious as the failure modes capitalists pointed out for those systems.
>> Which is going to be problem though...at least in the states, because so much of your infrastructure and social structure is wedded to the status quo, it's going to be hard-to-impossible to do anything else, <<
That's true. There's a rising interest in walkable neighborhoods for people who can afford to move elsewhere. This is a good thing. But it doesn't help people who are in unwalkable neighborhoods or rural areas.
>> and that's where the vested interests don't make it down-right illegal. [e.g tiny homes and their illegality for example.] <<
It doesn't matter, honestly. You can't force people to do something they're incapable of doing no matter how much you abuse them. Making tiny houses illegal just makes people homeless. Making homelessness illegal just puts people in jail. And there's a limit to how much of a population can be supported as unproductive livestock. Prison inmates only enrich the elite; they do nothing to keep society going. The more that expands, the more trouble it causes.
You might as well just pour sugar in the gas tank.
Re: Yes...
July 29 2016, 17:51:48 UTC 4 years ago
My grandparents expected the car craze to die before they did. Well, they were mistaken. I may be mistaken too, but I'd *love* to see big clunky gas-burners go out of style in my lifetime. Existing technology is ready for a new generation of transportation; cars-as-we-know-them are still viable only because people are accustomed to them. So, if GM is determined to commit suicide by greed, that might actually be a good thing.
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July 29 2016, 18:10:54 UTC 4 years ago
I don't care if the companies self-destruct. I care that the decreasing availability and usability of private cars is not matched by an increase in public transportation, walkability, and ability to afford hiring a ride when necessary. This leaves many people with reduced ability to travel, including for necessities. Since neither the government nor the corporations care about citizens right now, I expect these problems to get worse instead of better.
Alternative transportation mostly consists of hybrid or electric cars, which are more expensive and less feasible to maintain, and only have the advantage of being smaller. Human-powered vehicles are primarily useful to those in good physical condition, not anyone with impaired health. While I'm in favor of these options, I don't expect them to solve the problems I raised regarding car evolution.
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July 29 2016, 19:06:26 UTC 4 years ago
(Modo: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/modobag-world-s-first-motorized-rideable-luggage-travel-technology#/ )
We can visualize better than this. We could even build something better than this. Already. The science is there; the funds and infrastructure, not yet. I want slow-traffic lanes on every road.
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July 29 2016, 19:27:36 UTC 4 years ago
July 28 2016, 23:17:51 UTC 4 years ago
I thought it interesting which cars looked the most like their forebears... the pony cars, the classic peep... the 'vette changed radically between the first model and the late '60's ones, but hasn't really done much since. The serious high-end luxury cars were the ones that changed most. (And can I just say I *hate* the headlamps on that white RR?)
I don't know if Dodge did or not, but I know Ford actually sent former owners surveys, "Does this look *to you* like the car you owned and loved?" They realised they really lost their way with the II in '76 and put a LOT of effort into bringing the old mystique back.
They succeeded. I drove a convertible one on the Big Island. It was a good ride. (I didn't test its cornering ability; one, I had a passenger who doesn't like that sort of thing, and two, pony car. They're like large American-made motorcycles. Go fast, *straight line*. Twisties, not so much. :)
Thoughts
July 29 2016, 01:02:40 UTC 4 years ago
So did the jeep. Aside from retaining the shoebox shape it's nothing alike. It went from open to closed, lightweight to heavy, a lot more stuff on it to break, and now you can't fix it with a wrench in the middle of the desert.
>>I don't know if Dodge did or not, but I know Ford actually sent former owners surveys, "Does this look *to you* like the car you owned and loved?" They realised they really lost their way with the II in '76 and put a LOT of effort into bringing the old mystique back. <<
Very astute.
July 29 2016, 13:42:21 UTC 4 years ago
And yes, the final photo in the set IS priceless. Almost worth trying to download, print out large, and frame.