Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
Elizabeth Barrette
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Thoughtcrimes

This case is of interest to writers everywhere, because writers often need to research the nefarious things that their characters do.  Or even things that are appalling but actually have a good reason behind them.
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fayanora

fayanora

May 15 2015, 08:30:35 UTC 6 years ago

I also want to note that vore is a MUCH broader category than "kidnap and cannibalism of women." First, it's not just "of women," there are people in the cannibal subcomunity of vore who fantasize about eating men, or ARE men and fantasize about being eaten either by women or by other men. A lot of the stories are also about consensual consumption.

And, of course, a lot of vore stuff is about being eaten by monsters, or by animals, or about eating animals alive.

I know because I know someone who's interested in vore on the "fantasizing about being eaten" end of it.

So yeah, not just misogynists getting off on violence towards women.

Always clear your search history, use DuckDuckGo, and TOR if you want to be extra cautious.
ysabetwordsmith

Well...

ysabetwordsmith

May 15 2015, 08:36:43 UTC 6 years ago

As long as it's consensual, I have no problem with it.

As long as nobody gets hurt, YKIO-YAO.

Somebody gets hurt, including psychological harm, I am no longer okay with that.

Now, I've written some stuff tangential to this. There was a science fiction poem featuring an alien doctor who swallowed people as a means of fixing whatever was wrong with them. There's the cannibalism thread in Polychrome Heroics about the Japanese whalers who wanted to eat Steel and Moderato. Those are not portrayed in a positive light. I've got dragons who are very much cannibals, and rapists, and ... well, just generally awful people. I don't tend to portray that sort of thing as fun. I try to be responsible about it so that people don't stumble in without knowing what's in that particular episode.
fayanora

Re: Well...

fayanora

May 15 2015, 08:59:38 UTC 6 years ago

Somebody gets hurt, including psychological harm, I am no longer okay with that.

I should also note, vore is almost always 100% fantasy; only the really crazy people act on those fantasies.

I don't tend to portray that sort of thing as fun.

Likewise. Though I do have a tendency to do a lot of "shades of grey" kind of stuff. A good example is the Basilisks from my Lyria novel: The males are humanoid dragons, the females are enormous snakes. Everything about them is rough, difficult; even the most open minded and patient races don't like them. They barely like one another. Aside from the females having a murderous stare, they have several types of venom (males included) including one that melts the eyes of the victim and causes paralysis. The paralysis is temporary, but the eye damage cannot be fixed by any means; the venom uses a magical component as well as a chemical one.

What's more, they raise humans as cattle, they consider any being that cannot understand and/or speak Bazlask (their language, most of which is out of range of human hearing) as nothing but animals, they wage war on other beings constantly and have a sort of "noble warrior/hunter" take on it, and though their scales produce pretty rainbow shimmers, those same rainbow shimmers make mammals ill when they see it. A human looking at even a male Basilisk will get weak, shaky, and fall down to their knees vomiting. (They've bred this out of their cattle.)

But they're not all bad. Their human cattle are no longer sentient, having basically the same intelligence as cows do. They are fiercely loyal to their clan and their species, to the point where if a "free range" human (or other Being) killed one or more of them (including eggs), they would hunt down the poor soul, kidnap him, and torture him until he begged for death. (Partly because they're born in mated male/female pairs that are born with a permanent psychic link; killing one half of the pair is like killing half of someone's brain, except they can still function long enough to get revenge.)

The males frequently fight the males, and the females frequently fight one another, but they never war amongst their own kind, they almost never kill one another (same rules apply to them, after all), they share food with one another in lean times, and despite how unpleasant they are, there's a whole lot of them working for the side of Good on the principle of "it's my planet too, I don't want it destroyed or taken over by those assholes."

And as unpleasant as they are, they're one of my favorite species in the series. They're incorrigibly horrible, but not evil.