This is why I'm losing my taste for the urban fantasy books of today. Okay, I like fantapr0n, I really do. But that's not all I like, and I'm frankly bored with the hack-level writing of it. I'm bored. Your pr0n is boring.
I come home with my money in my pocket, and I write P.I.E. or Monster House. Or I throw money at my crowdfunding friends because they write diverse characters I'd actually like to chat with over a cup of cocoa.
I am not turning loose of urban fantasy just because some people want to wank all over it. There are claw marks on everything I ever let go of. Let that be a warning.
UPDATE: Okay, folks, no dissing whole species please. I'm not the only Otherkin on here, and two different people have dinged the Faery already. Remember that most of those books are no more accurate of any other species than they are of Homo sapiens. Let's keep it clean. You can criticize a book, or category of books, on the merit of their entertainment or technique.
November 6 2014, 11:54:45 UTC 6 years ago
It's a pity that you can't find such books any more.
I regularly remind people that it's generally a bad idea to date outside your own species--if you take a few minutes and think about the problems you'd be facing.
Werewolves--come equipped with claws AND fangs. Could YOUR vacuum cleaner stand up to all the extra fur you'd be cleaning up? Mood swings are apparently also a problem with these folks.
Vampires--I don't know about you, but I prefer my blood to stay IN my body and the whole "can't go out in the sunlight thing" would get old in a hurry when I'm needing help with the yard work.
Zombi's--No. Just no. The ick factor is just too high.
Mummies--Too boring. The ick factor also goes too high for comfort on this one.
Faery--No way. I have too much pride to be someone's mercy f**k...or worse, their pet.
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November 6 2014, 12:51:49 UTC 6 years ago
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I figure there must be a reason.
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November 6 2014, 19:47:17 UTC 6 years ago
*AHEM* My partner is neither mercy fuck nor pet. We have a perfectly equitable relationship, and the fact that I regularly rescue him from certain things is balanced by him rescuing me from certain other things. I mean, come on, last month the house started randomly changing the number of steps in the staircase, and all he did was come to me and complain so I could tell it to quit.
And this? This is why shitty romance is no good for anyone, it bends perceptions about how relationships and people work. The fact that I am Fae does not prevent me from having healthy relationships.
Well, now you know one reason why I bitch about the slushfest that urban fantasy has become.
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Fey-Human relationships
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November 6 2014, 12:49:34 UTC 6 years ago
And any book that has the primary focused on clothing/ make-up/ appearance/ or social standing ... goes carefully back on the shelf because libraries and bookstores don't look kindly to finding their stock in garbage cans.
I don't much mind a touch of attraction and/or romance in my adventure, but there had BETTER be more to the story than that.
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November 6 2014, 20:19:01 UTC 6 years ago
They can be beautiful. I just expect more from a description than that. Like, "He had legs so long and fine that she could easily imagine him running an elk to ground. It made her wonder if he'd like her recipe for elkloaf."
>> If it's coupled with a description of two (or more) hot guys who are competing for her romantic attention - or if she's torn between the two (one safe but boring, the other dangerously handsome) the book DEFINITELY goes back on the shelf. <<
This is basically where I got the idea for P.I.E. with Brenda choosing neither of the hot mess wannabe-boyfriends and instead picking the guy that most women would have friendzoned. Okay, so Darrel is pretty accident-prone but he has good manners.
>> And any book that has the primary focused on clothing/ make-up/ appearance/ or social standing ... goes carefully back on the shelf because libraries and bookstores don't look kindly to finding their stock in garbage cans. <<
Yeah, that doesn't float my boat either, although I've a handful of characters who are clotheshorses. I just expect them to be good for more than window dressing.
>> I don't much mind a touch of attraction and/or romance in my adventure, but there had BETTER be more to the story than that. <<
I love a good romantic subplot, but I get annoyed if it starts trying to top from the bottom.
November 6 2014, 23:56:21 UTC 6 years ago
Anyway, yeah, paranormal romance is a bit weird. It can be fun, but there's way too much of it, and most of it is dross.
I prefer my monsters to be monsters. Or to be complex people, at least. Lyria, my dark sorceress, is beautiful but she's asexual and only just barely on the side of romantic. Mostly she's too busy for romance, and sex is just gross to her, a bit like spitting in public is gross to a lot of folks.
Of course, I'm not writing a simple story. The Lyria/Playground of the Gods story is a complex mix of high fantasy, science fiction, and horror with comedic elements and urban fantasy elements (but no elements of romance stories, even though there are relationships/romances between some characters). Also, I plan for there to be the occasional completely unrealistic and absurd thing happening, inspired by the kind of unrealistic and absurd stuff that happens in reality, because sometimes reality has everything from WTF Moments in the middle of a serious time, like the Christmas Truce in WWI, to Deus Ex Machina stuff like a whole fleet of enemy ships wiped out by a freak wind. Because that's just how I do things; I don't do simple genre tales, they're boring. Life is complex, and fiction should strive to equal life's complexity.
Anyway, I don't plan on doing anything to expectations. I like to set up expectations and then knock them down. My vampires will be plain and/or homely at best. The Rakshasa are not pleasant to look at. Both Vampires and Rakshasa have tribes that eat humans, and others that only eat things like cows. The Cavern Elves are pale and blind and gross looking, but can be friendly. And all the fantasy races in the story have their own complexities, just like humans do.
November 6 2014, 20:15:24 UTC 6 years ago
I've been seeing a strain of this in the fanfic, particular handlings of Omegaverse, soulbonds and other subflavors; tastes vary, so it can be hard to tell 'trends' if they aren't the boat you favor.
Get HYDRA out of 'sexytimes'. Not Consent. Nope. Nada. Patriarchy, it's not hot.
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November 6 2014, 20:29:51 UTC 6 years ago
It's fucking France over here, praise God and pass the ammunition.
>> I've been seeing a strain of this in the fanfic, particular handlings of Omegaverse, soulbonds and other subflavors; tastes vary, so it can be hard to tell 'trends' if they aren't the boat you favor. <<
I've written soulbonds. They require delicate handling. Actually DW user Dialecticdreamer and I have a character currently running who is a toddler survivor of pogroms, lost her whole family, and is using her Soul Powers to glom onto every adult she likes in terror of being abandoned again. You can see how this is a totally different plot than "instant love, just add eye contact."
Also my version of Omegaverse, hm, is probably at least a decade old if not more. It started out just in notes, not sure I ever even published, but hell I've been writing altsex stuff all long so it's hard to track. Haven't gotten around to trying the later fanfic versions but might someday. It's no trouble to write well if you know what you're doing. Most people just don't.
>> Get HYDRA out of 'sexytimes'. Not Consent. Nope. Nada. Patriarchy, it's not hot. <<
I will confess to having written a description of queer Nazi pr0n. It was in an erotic short story that ended with Adolf Hitler being forced to watch the reels in Hell.
November 6 2014, 23:08:16 UTC 6 years ago
And the InCryptid series, based very very loosely on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, is about a family of cryptozoologists in a world where every crytpid you can think of and then some are real. From flying snakes to unicorns, from Sasquatch to gorgons, it's all real and the Prices study it all and protect the sentient cryptids from The Covenant of Saint George, which is a nasty group of monster hunters that believe all cryptids should die.
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I haven't read much fantasy recently, but I loved Johnathan Strange and Mr. Norrell. That was quite a while ago though. Also going to check out Incrypted and The Goblin Emporer.