Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
Elizabeth Barrette
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Common Values

Here is an interesting essay about values. I'm not sure these are all universal as claimed, but they're certainly widespread. I suspect that most people hold most of those values ... but not necessarily all in the same order. Some people rank freedom above health/survival; others rank health/survival above freedom. Some people require close-knit relationships to thrive; others don't. Those differences can cause tension ... or just curiosity. When conflicts spring up, check the priorities.
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  • 7 comments
glitteringlynx

glitteringlynx

September 7 2008, 05:29:26 UTC 12 years ago

Well, taking into account the pyramid of self-realisation, health WOULD come before freedom. Freedom won't mean much if you don't have clean water to drink and food to eat. Similarly if you're eating, then you can care about family and make sure they have food as well (it's normal instinct to ensure you're okay first). Concepts like Freedome come much later.

Actually, I think the guy who wrote that should look up the self-realisation pyramid. It makes a hell of a lot more sense than his chart and justifications.
ysabetwordsmith

I Disagree

ysabetwordsmith

September 7 2008, 05:38:29 UTC 12 years ago

I've seen the self-realization pyramid. It's a common configuration of priorities -- but it's not the only configuration. If nobody put freedom ahead of health, there would be far fewer wars. As it is, quite a lot of people are willing to risk death for the chance of freedom. American history alone is full of examples, from the colonist-invaders to the native tribes to the African slaves. I think that's a good thing.
glitteringlynx

Re: I Disagree

glitteringlynx

September 7 2008, 05:43:37 UTC 12 years ago

Yeh but you're looking top-down. When setting priorities, thing about if you had absolutely nothing and there's no civilisation yet. Now you have to start priorities. Food and water is first b/c you need it to live. Then a roof over your head to protect from the elements. Then the altruism of cooperation with others, family first then strangers. And so on.

It's this bottom-up approach that was used for the self-realisation pyramid. Once you already have bunches of them, it's easier to shuffle them around.
ysabetwordsmith

Re: I Disagree

ysabetwordsmith

September 7 2008, 05:53:33 UTC 12 years ago

*laugh* But without civilization, you already have a bunch of that stuff: you have freedom, you have work, and so forth. So sure, you start looking for food and water, and a mate when you get horny.

Hmm ... I may have to think what it would take to start with none of those things. Might be a story in there.
glitteringlynx

Re: I Disagree

glitteringlynx

September 7 2008, 05:57:32 UTC 12 years ago

Well, I also look at it relatively as well. As it not just as a human. I would think of it for wild animals, domesticated animals, etc. Farm animals don't have true freedom, but they have food and care. I mentally rolodex through various animals to see if it would still work.

Which is why I like the pyramid, b/c it's not necessarily anthropocentric.

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padhopper

padhopper

September 7 2008, 13:45:56 UTC 12 years ago

I don't think values are universal at all. Everyone has a entirely different value system. I guess if they did a study they could sorta pin point how many people valued privacy, that sorta thing, but to say these are values, get yourself some, won't work.