Undeveloped America
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A Little Slice of Terramagne: YardMap
Sadly the main program is dormant, but the YardMap concept is awesome, and many of its informative articles remain. YardMap was a citizen science…
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Winterfest in July Bingo Card 7-1-21
Here is my card for the Winterfest in July Bingo fest. It runs from July 1-30. Celebrate all the holidays and traditions of winter! ( See all my…
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Bingo
I have made bingo down the B, G, and O columns of my 6-1-21 card for the Cottoncandy Bingo fest. I also have one extra fill. B1 (caretaking) --…
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A Little Slice of Terramagne: YardMap
Sadly the main program is dormant, but the YardMap concept is awesome, and many of its informative articles remain. YardMap was a citizen science…
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Winterfest in July Bingo Card 7-1-21
Here is my card for the Winterfest in July Bingo fest. It runs from July 1-30. Celebrate all the holidays and traditions of winter! ( See all my…
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Bingo
I have made bingo down the B, G, and O columns of my 6-1-21 card for the Cottoncandy Bingo fest. I also have one extra fill. B1 (caretaking) --…
March 24 2014, 08:43:19 UTC 7 years ago
March 24 2014, 21:17:55 UTC 7 years ago
After all, it's kind of hard for racism to still be causing trouble when there are so few whites left in all of Mississippi or most of the rest of the South other than the larger cities.
Notice how poor the South is in general?
Well that makes for a self-perpetuating cycle of poverty because tax revenues are where the public school systems get their money from. Poor schools = poor education = poor people and not enough money to have truly progressive schools and then when you add in a cultural disrespect for becoming well-educated, it really becomes nasty.
Another thing that causes trouble for the South are its "right to work" laws. Because of them, most industry that typically uses labor union workers won't relocate to the South for fear of offending the powerful labor unions of the North and that keeps lots of higher paying factory jobs out of the south. But it goes a bit deeper than just that. Most factories now require workers capable of operating high tech equipment and that generally means that their workers all graduate both high school and then attend either a trade school or a junior college to acquire the necessary job skills.
Remember what I said about the culture disrespecting education AND the fact that they have poor school systems? Many of the people living in these areas who graduated from high school are lucky if they can read and write on an eighth grade level. That doesn't prepare them for doing even junior college level work.
So you often wind up with a situation in which when a factory DOES relocate to somewhere in the South all the higher tech jobs are inevitably taken by people who move into the area along with the factory and not by people who already live there. (I should know. I used to read about the scandals that occurred when this happened several different times in MISS alone.) The locals simply did NOT have the education necessary to get themselves hired for the better-paying jobs at the new factories unless they were willing to undertake going to trade school or the local junior college to acquire the needed skills ON THEIR OWN TIME AND MONEY.
I hope this provides you with more of a 360 of what's really causing the poverty in the South.
BTW: I used to be made fun of throughout both grade school and high school for reading anything just for my own pleasure BY OTHER WHITE KIDS.
In this area, poor whites and poor blacks are very much alike in their negative views on education whereas better educated blacks and whites share a better opinion of education and what it might do for them.
Thoughts
March 24 2014, 21:24:45 UTC 7 years ago
That one is causing trouble in more than the South.
>>After all, it's kind of hard for racism to still be causing trouble when there are so few whites left in all of Mississippi or most of the rest of the South other than the larger cities.<<
Segregation is an aspect of racism.
>>Notice how poor the South is in general?
Well that makes for a self-perpetuating cycle of poverty because tax revenues are where the public school systems get their money from.<<
Yes, that's true.
>> Another thing that causes trouble for the South are its "right to work" laws. <<
Agreed. They don't actually give people any rights.
>>I hope this provides you with more of a 360 of what's really causing the poverty in the South.<<
I know it's a complex issue. I simply found the map a useful illustration of some aspects. The whole thing together is a palimpsest of disaster. You can't solve it all at once. You have to pick it apart.
Re: Thoughts
March 25 2014, 14:28:11 UTC 7 years ago
This is true.
This is one reason why Miss has drastically shortened summer vacation. Some of my relatives barely get a month and a half break during the summer now when I can remember having a full three months off in summer back when I was a child. The reason being that the school system finally noticed that most children went home at the beginning of summer and then promptly forgot much of what they'd learned during the school year.
The children don't have as much opportunity to forget these days but another problem has appeared. Many children burn out by Christmas each year and then simply coast along until they get out of school in late June. That's a serious waste of teaching time but who knows when the school systems will get smart enough to notice.
" I simply found the map a useful illustration of some aspects."
I have to agree the map is nice to look at but I find it frustrating because it doesn't go into any real depth NOR DOES IT ROCK ANY BOATS BY REVEALING ANYTHING UNUSUAL.
One thing I noticed immediately is that the map doesn't break each area down by race or by how much money the inhabitants earn each year or even by the level of crime in that area (to name three of the most common factors.
Another good thing that has begun is the drive toward very early childhood education.
Way way too many kindergarten teachers have complained about kindergarten age children who still haven't learned to talk well. That's a major developmental fault that must be fixed before there's any hope of teaching those children their ABC's or number's or much else.
:)
Re: Thoughts
March 26 2014, 07:57:16 UTC 7 years ago
Everyone needs time to rest and recharge. It's like sleep refreshing the mind so it's ready to learn more. Without that -- well, I'd look for the rate of highschool dropouts to rise, and college enrollment to fall.
>> Way way too many kindergarten teachers have complained about kindergarten age children who still haven't learned to talk well. <<
Well, that's what happens when it takes 3-5 jobs to support a household. Nobody has time to raise the kids. But if you dump them into care before they're five or so, they don't bond properly with the parents. Then you get students who have trouble making friends or relating to teachers, and eventually adults who don't mesh easily with romantic partners. Damaged attachment is ugly stuff.
Re: Thoughts
March 26 2014, 15:59:54 UTC 7 years ago
:)
March 26 2014, 01:20:40 UTC 7 years ago
March 26 2014, 05:54:20 UTC 7 years ago
Think about the 60's and the political environment of that era and contrast it with how things are now. People don't read the way they used to and very few people are as well informed about world affairs today as they were back then. These days the news is composed largely of sports or what some actor got up to over the weekend. You almost never hear about what happened in Europe or Asia even on the internet and it never happens on the TV news.
Back before my Hubby and I decided to get rid of our cable subscription, we watched the BBC News to find out what was actually going on in the world. We found it totally ironic that we heard more about American political happenings on the BBC than we ever did on any of the other channel news stations.
Do you see a pattern forming here? All you have to do to control people is to keep them ignorant of sensitive information. You'll never have to deal with crowds of angry picketers if they don't know about something that would make them mad.
The second step to controlling people is to convince them that there's no use in even trying to do anything. Anyone who's seen our falling voter turnout's over the past thirty years will agree that the powers that be have largely managed that.
Nobody cares whether you're educated or not these days because it's what you do with your education that counts.
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March 25 2014, 18:17:03 UTC 7 years ago
You get so much defensiveness about being from the south down here, but really some things, many things Truly Suck.
As for racism, it probably varies place to place. I agree with rhodielady to an extent, except that there is real racism still here at least some places. Segregated populations, institutionalized stuff, and lingering cultural stuff; for example a church that until very recently taught that black and white people went to separate heavens.
Granted, you often see places here where (mostly the poor) black and white people live side by side as neighbors and accept each other and the problems are more poverty and the Crab Bucket effect (pulling each other down) rather than intolerance.
Yes...
March 25 2014, 19:22:52 UTC 7 years ago
I should probably have mentioned that I'm longitudinally bifocal. I have the Southern imprint from my grandparents, and this area of Illinois is kind of the southish part of the North.
>> As for racism, it probably varies place to place. <<
It does.
>> for example a church that until very recently taught that black and white people went to separate heavens. <<
0_o
>> Granted, you often see places here where (mostly the poor) black and white people live side by side as neighbors and accept each other and the problems are more poverty and the Crab Bucket effect (pulling each other down) rather than intolerance. <<
I used that in my poem "The Tallest Poppy" recently, writing about intolerance of excellence.
One time we were at a local restaurant, and some guy at the next table over made a math comment, and his friends picked on him mercilessly for it. Horrifying.