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In my Lyria storyverse, all her soldiers have adamantium armor that, while always built to fit the person, make it very hard to tell who is male and who is female. Being adamantium, the only two things that can threaten the people inside are anti-magic (adamantium is a magic substance, so anti-magic of sufficient strength can dissolve it), and the laws of physics (especially inertia). For instance, in one scene an enemy with adamantium tanks gets one of their tanks thrown so violently fast and hard by Lyria's pet monster Voluponek, that the crew inside instantly get turned into splatters on the inside walls.

Yup, their armor is even heat-resistant and radiation-resistant. You'd pretty much have to drop a nuke on them to hurt them, and even then, the only reason they'd die would be, again, inertia. (Not all adamantium is of such high quality, but Lyria is especially good at making top-quality adamantium.)

Oh, and I suppose the Vecerti (gods) and some of the stronger Fae races could get through it, too.

That poor woman in the picture linked by "this nonsense" looks like she's freezing!

I only ever give characters skimpy clothing if weather and other circumstances permit, and if their personal preference permits. Only time I ever have warriors going about without armor is if they're gods or somesuch, and don't need it. (Or primitive cultures.) But in the Lyriaverse, even the most powerful Fae and Elves wear armor. Hell, the Asharind Fae have *living* armor that can be either a liquid or a solid, and can shift from one to the other in an instant. A bit like a living non-Newtonian fluid that can predict hits a second or more before they come.

Mind you, the Asharind are powerful enough that they could go naked in Antarctica and not even feel it, but they still wear clothing. Quite apart from anything else, their glamour is such that if they went naked, any mortal that saw them would probably die of his or her head exploding!
The Asharind are also the only Fae species immune to the negative effects of iron and steel, though such was not always the case. Mortal weapons would bounce off their naked skin like twigs off a rock. Still, the Fae still fight amongst themselves, and adamantium and a metal called ilofim (a bit like mithril, but liquid and alive, and not made of silver; it's the stuff their armor is made of) can hurt or even kill them in blade form.
>> For instance, in one scene an enemy with adamantium tanks gets one of their tanks thrown so violently fast and hard by Lyria's pet monster Voluponek, that the crew inside instantly get turned into splatters on the inside walls. <<

I love that you think of shit like this.

>> I only ever give characters skimpy clothing if weather and other circumstances permit, and if their personal preference permits. <<

Well, you don't want to put someone in full plate mail in a desert. Hasbro Easy-Bake Instant Hell.

On the other hoof, enchanted armor could look like three spangles and a hanky, and still be +25 Epic Protection. Which would be kind of funny when the enemy swung his broadsword at the girl's navel and it broke.
I love that you think of shit like this.

LOL! Thanks!

Though anyone with enough foresight to know this weakness could put cushioning charms or anti-inertia spells on the inside of a tank. A bit harder to do that with armor, though; maybe even impossible.

Well, you don't want to put someone in full plate mail in a desert. Hasbro Easy-Bake Instant Hell.

Aye. :-D

Not an issue for the Asharind, of course, since they're so magical they could probably survive nude inside molten lava or, inversely, on the far side of Pluto. But Kialu gave Lyria the secrets of making the living metal ilofim, so Lyria's version of the living armor protects against extremes of temperature.

On the other hoof, enchanted armor could look like three spangles and a hanky, and still be +25 Epic Protection. Which would be kind of funny when the enemy swung his broadsword at the girl's navel and it broke.

Yeah, I think it would be funny to have some mortals getting VERY surprised when fighting a Fae. The Asharind Fae are very interesting. Along with being invulnerable to mortal weapons (aside from adamantium), they have supernatural grace, they are super-strong, and are weight-shifters. They can also mass-shift. As to super strength, in one scene I have planned, Kialu punches a hole in a mountain1 in temper and it doesn't hurt her, even though it causes a minor earthquake. And the weight-shifting has interesting effects, especially when combined with their grace. I've already written scenes where Kialu not only leaps from tree to tree with gigantic bounds like Superman before he could fly, she also stands one-footed on tiny branches that would strain to support a squirrel. She could even stand on a feather and not bend it at all. But on the other hoof, she could - if she wanted to - jump and land on an enemy with the weight of ten bull elephants or more.

But yeah, imagine the mortal's terror when his finely-crafted steel blade snaps in half against her bare arm. She's the type who could grab a gun out of someone's hand and tie the barrel into a knot without breaking a sweat. Though with her magic power, she could just as easily turn the offending mortal into a newt. I doubt she would do that, though; Kialu likes mortals. Two of her best friends are mortals. (Kialu is young for an Asharind, only a couple thousand years old.)

1 = Admittedly, it isn't a large hole; no more impressive than punching a hole through a 3-foot thick wall made of granite. Still...
Forgot to mention, once Lyria's warriors put on their helmets, it becomes impossible to tell one gender from another, except in cases where an individual has need of a larger breastplate; even then, it's subtle.
Just as an aside, in her defence Red Sonja's infamous chainmail bikini was never meant as armour. It was something she cobbled together out of scraps so she wouldn't be naked after being [possibly nearly] raped. At least according to the original book. It's been bastardised ever since, and I think the original cover illustration didn't help since it was a lot skimpier than the description of her outfit in the book [all one sentence of it].

That makes more sense now. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Hmm...

siliconshaman

November 28 2013, 10:35:24 UTC 7 years ago Edited:  November 28 2013, 10:35:47 UTC

Well, it's been unfairly held up as an example of cheesecake design for ages now so you know... Although, that said, I don't think the original books mentioned her in any other clothes for something like 5 years and three books later! I guess they just assumed people would assume she'd changed and never mentioned it. [pulp fiction, go figure.]

Re: that scale-mail bikini

my_partner_doug

November 28 2013, 16:37:35 UTC 7 years ago Edited:  November 28 2013, 16:39:58 UTC

I'm a little confused: just what "original books" (later implied to be pulp fiction) are you referring to here? Red Sonja (with a "j") was an original comic book character created in 1974 as a contemporary of Conan, as depicted in Marvel comics. She was only very loosely based on a 16th century Polish-Ukrainian redheaded warrior, Red Sonya (with a "y"), whose only appearance was in a Robert E. Howard short story, "The Shadow of the Vulture". And by "very loosely based", the only resemblance was the slightly varied name and the hair color.

As to the scale-mail bikini, although there's been some wardrobe variation over the years, she's still most often depicted in that outfit nearly 40 years after its original appearance -- and I don't believe Marvel ever had her wearing anything else for at least the first decade after her creation.
...am I the only person who finds the idea of an outfit someone cobbled together after nearly being raped then being turned into cheesecakey fetish bait EXTREMELY creepy? Seriously, your explanation only makes it WORSE!

--Rogan
Okay, that is creepy.
Granted yes.. it's a bit creepy...now that you point it out.
This discussion reminded me of an episode of Deadliest Warrior which featured Joan of Arc versus William the Conqueror. Some interesting things about plate mail versus chain mail are revealed, beginning from the 34 minute, 40 second mark.
Okay, you got me. I hate watching things online, but that one sucked me in the whole show. Of course, part of that is because I'm writing about Joan of Arc in nether-Europe. I got some great insights to that, so thank you very much.

I have to admit, I was surprised that plate mail posed less restriction of movement than chain. Though I note the fighter clad in chain did complete his half of the exercise faster. I did know that chain was more vulnerable to piercing blows, and it's no use against blunt force either. It's meant to stop slashes, which it does quite well. Plate is better against all of those: but it's more expensive, more demanding of material, heavier, and harder to make. You get what you pay for.
I'm glad to have provided interesting distractions. :)

Yes, the chain mail wearing fighter did clear the course in about half the time, but he was approaching twice the size of the female fighter in plate. Simple brute upper body strength does play a substantial role in how quickly one hacks through a group of opponents, simulated or otherwise.
I figured that leg/arm length would make a difference in covering ground and felling opponents. Although not the topic of this challenge, it would be very interesting to compare plate and chain performance between equally sized combatants.

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