Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
Elizabeth Barrette
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Asexuality and Polyamory

Here's a thoughtful discussion about asexuality and polyamory.  Yes, those can mix.

I do quibble with one point; I consider the monogamous-polyamorous spectrum to be an aspect of sexual orientation.  Most people have a preference there, and it's usually not something they can choose or alter.
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I have personal knowledge of the whole mono-poly thing being ... not as permanent as some aspects of sexuality. I would say the permanence itself varies from individual to individual.... but it's definitely an aspect of sexuality, just like gay/bi/straight/ace... and there are many different relationships one can have that are well into the grey area where mono people don't play that don't involve, or at the very least aren't driven, by making the bed go bounce...
I learned a long time ago to treat someone's sexual orientation as current, not necessarily permanent. Doesn't matter if it's a phase or forever, it's where they are now.

Because the first time a friend who thought he was gay, shifted into het mode and made a pass at me, I was really caught off-guard; it was like having a table come onto me. I didn't want that to happen again, so I changed the way I was filing people's orientations in my head.

Over the years, I've seen plenty of folks change one or another aspect of their sexuality, usually not on purpose. Some do, some don't. It's all fine.

And yes, I've also known ace friends who were in poly relationships. It can be really great to have someone in the family who is not busy with sex and therefore has that energy to devote elsewhere. Compatibility? Polyfolk don't have a fetish for lots of sex, they have a fetish for lots of communication. If you're into that, it has a high chance of working. Actually they also tend to be into cuddles and romantic gestures of affection too, which are things some asexual folks really enjoy. It's just a matter of finding the right family.
"It's just a matter of finding the right family."

Yes, that. *waves to technoshaman*
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mdlbear

7 years ago

I learned a long time ago to treat someone's sexual orientation as current, not necessarily permanent. Doesn't matter if it's a phase or forever, it's where they are now.

Oooh, yeah. Boy that was an old memory... long story, but, yes, I remember someone's orientation changing on me. Wasn't quite as disconcerting as your case, as I wasn't the one she ended up making the pass at.. but yeah, I could see where that would get your attention, and not necessarily pleasantly.

Polyfolk don't have a fetish for lots of sex, they have a fetish for lots of communication.

LOL yep. Besides, love is unlimited. *Time* is _not_.

....lots of communication. If you're into that, it has a high chance of working.

A commo fetish is *always* good. (Though attachment hangups, not always. Big difference. :)

>> I could see where that would get your attention, and not necessarily pleasantly. <<

He was a great guy, and I liked him a lot. But the sudden tilt was very disconcerting.

>> Besides, love is unlimited. *Time* is _not_. <<

True, of course. It helps if people like doing a lot of things together, or else have widely divergent tastes that they trade off with different people. *chuckle* We have a couple of friends that, when we're together, we often swap partners for hobby purposes. It confuses people who see us that way.

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technoshaman

7 years ago

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mdlbear

7 years ago

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technoshaman

7 years ago

I've seen people talk about running Mono on a Poly operating system. (Or maybe Poly Compatible - virtualization has gotten really good these days!)

That can work.
*nods* It works reasonably well, if the attraction to partner is strong enough and the one running virtual is principled...

johnpalmer

7 years ago

johnpalmer

7 years ago

technoshaman

7 years ago

Well...

ysabetwordsmith

7 years ago

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johnpalmer

7 years ago

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ysabetwordsmith

7 years ago

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johnpalmer

7 years ago

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ysabetwordsmith

7 years ago

technoshaman

7 years ago

johnpalmer

7 years ago

Well, I don't think ones position on any of the various spectra is something one can choose or alter all at once, but it can certainly change over time, and to some extent that change may be guided by one's social environment. And other things, including physical changes and drugs.

*wry grin* Yes; I am speaking from experience here.
That matches my observations. People's latent potential is often wider than their active range. So if they're in a repressive environment, their range of attraction or activity may contract; while if they're in a tolerant environment, it may expand. Also the more different people they meet, the higher the chance of meeting someone who's an exception to their rules.
It can go the other way, too, as people experiment and eventually find out more about themselves and what they're comfortable with. And what their friends and partners are comfortable with.

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technoshaman

7 years ago

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ysabetwordsmith

7 years ago

Also the more different people they meet, the higher the chance of meeting someone who's an exception to their rules.

Been on both ends of that one.... either-way it was a brain-stretching experience for me. Can't say it's *always* that way.... I would say "sadly" but the ramifications of a certain experience having not been pleasant haven't completely played out yet. I am hopeful that there may be more smileage in there, indirectly...
I consider the monogamous-polyamorous spectrum to be an aspect of sexual orientation. Most people have a preference there, and it's usually not something they can choose or alter.

I am bisexual and polyamorous, and feel that poly is way more important to me than bisexual is. In fact, I didn't always know I was bi (I felt asexual until I was 18) but I always, always knew I wanted to be polyamorous, even when I was a little kid and didn't know what it was, or when I didn't think it was a thing that I would ever find people willing to do with me.
That's another thing: people vary in terms of how important they consider each aspect of sexuality, and how important sexuality is in their life and identity. A lot of misunderstandings happen because somebody doesn't understand why another person's rankings are different from their own.

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