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Acing the Rainbow Bechdel
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valarltd From: valarltd Date: January 14th, 2013 07:29 am (UTC) (Link)
Define People of Color...

My co-author classes Middle-eastern people as PoC. I do not. (my half-Greek&Lebanese step-sisters considered themselves white, because they weren't black) She also includes Jews, but again, not seeing it.

Sticking to novels:

Nikolai has James Ligatos (Greek) talks to Iakobos, his cousin, thanking him for his help. James also talks to Stephen (African American) about Kentucky trying to secede from the Confederated States and their estimated travel time. He also talks to Benta (Israeli) in Rome, but we do not hear their conversation. (It can be assumed it is about matters of great importance, since he runs North America for her)

Alive on the Inside has a few of people of color: Ming Xia, Nagina, Marvello, Marie Leveau. But they interact mostly with the white main character, from whose POV the story is told. (one white character even freaks out over talking to marie Leveau, partly because the woman is black)

Privateer's Treasure has a cast with a lot of PoC, including an interracial main romance. The men talk to each other about piracy and sailing and all the other business of their lives. The Moroccan and the Barbadan (?) talk of many things including sex and torture.

Power in the Blood has a variety of PoC, including Gilgamesh, Josh (Judean), Samil (Issacharite), Martin Luther King Jr., and Lielit. None of them are main characters and they tend to not talk to each other.

Hard Reboot, mostly white, mostly Celtic. (My co-author griped that everyone was Anglo. I told him that of the 8 main characters, ONE was Anglo. We had 2 Israelis, and 5 Irish, of varying descent) There is color on the streets, but the book is focused on Sean O'Neill and his wife, Tara McLean, and the abuses the powerful people are committing in their lives. For Sean, only Tara and his brother Niall are really real, the rest of the world is wall-paper.

Spellbound Desire: Demarco Jackson, head of the Memphis combat mages, Officer Thomas, Galena Ortiz of Las Quatras Brujas, a Tejano combat mage unit. The old Polynesian tattoo artist. But again, they mostly talk to the (white, Scottish) hero who is in town to fight his ancient foe. And of course, being Memphis, there is a lot of local wall-paper color, people not important to the romance or combat plot, who move through our characters' lives.

Curse of the Pharaoh's Manicurists: touchy. There are Egyptians, if you consider them PoC. They talk about their work, and about Charlie (white, American), on whom they are working. They're getting him ready to meet Osiris...

Glad Hands: Native American. Several Cherokee, including the main character. Mohawk and Crow as well. High Chief Mankiller gives Chuck a job. Fred Half-Moon loses his temper. Stan gives Chuck directions. John Littlefeather and Chuck talk. Charles and Linda Hummingbird talk to their son about Charles making partner at the ad agency, Linda's altar guild, the international incident he caused. Hannah talks to Chuck about her due date. Mother Vivian talks about God, interpretations, weddings and her wife's pregnancy. Dr. Singh lectures Chuck.

Shell-shocked: wall-paper. The clerk at the local grocery, a DHS inspector.

Heart of a Forest: set in 1216 England hinterlands. No PoC to be seen

(coming in Feb)
Barbarossa's Bitch: the Wildpack is a mixed batch, but is shown almost exclusively through the eyes of the lead character. Therefore, when they aren't interacting with him, they're background. OTOH, he has three biracial daughters and we see the older teaching the younger the alphabet song and sign language.

(coming in May)
Heart's Bounty: Hevik is light-skinned mainstock human. Miho is somewhat darker Human+, Rejan is dark-skinned mainstock human. The three of them have an interesting BDSM scene. We also have exotics (humans with custom pigmentations, green, purple and blue) It's space opera, and Earth race doesn't apply.

Blackhall's Transtemporal Medicine Show:
Eliza and Cassius Masterson are a married couple. They talk about many things, including their babies and their jobs.
Fenyang is South African, Samira is Egyptian. They are having a romance.

I have a tendency to make the PoC wallpaper, unless they are the main characters. Then again, I tend to make all the supporting and bit players into wall-paper.
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: January 14th, 2013 07:34 am (UTC) (Link)

Wow!

That's a lot!
valarltd From: valarltd Date: January 14th, 2013 05:39 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Wow!

I did a whole post:
http://valarltd.livejournal.com/1721158.html

About 6 of the 13 novels pass all three criteria.
One fails to have any PoC at all, and that's mainly because of setting.

My short stories fare much more poorly. 26 of the 70 have PoC in them at all. Only 6 pass. The short work is often much more focused on two or three main characters so there isn't a lot of outside interaction.

And most of my stuff fails the Beshdel because I write male same-sex romance.
cadenzamuse From: cadenzamuse Date: January 14th, 2013 11:44 am (UTC) (Link)

FYI (you may already know this)

Totally beside the point, but two of my best friends' mother* is from Barbados, and the colloquial name for people from Barbados is "Basian." One of them suggested that the likely linguistic path was "Barbadian"->"Barbasian"->"Basian."

*They're twins. They have the same mother. :)
valarltd From: valarltd Date: January 14th, 2013 01:08 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: FYI (you may already know this)

Thank you. I hadn't actually needed the term so I found myself confused.

ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: January 15th, 2013 12:11 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: FYI (you may already know this)

Fascinating. I don't think I've encountered the term before. Thanks for sharing.
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