Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
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Jewish Fantasy

Here's an interesting essay about Jewish fantasy, or more specifically, the general lack thereof.  Part of the problem is just that this author's definition of "fantasy" is extremely narrow and leaves out much of the genre; perhaps "Jewish high fantasy" would have been more apt.

I've included Jewish motifs in some of my fantasy writing, such as Monster House (see "The Wrong House" among others) and Fledgling Grace (see "Cohanim"  among others).  While I'm not Jewish, I enjoy exploring the cultural material sometimes.  So if you'd like to see "a Jewish Narnia" or the like, ask me during any relevant Poetry Fishbowl or Creative Jam, and I'll give it a try.

Do you have favorite examples of Jewish fantasy, high or otherwise?  If so, please share below in comments.
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Nor Isaac Batshevis Singer. *sigh*

Clearly I need to finish the novel I've been writing for the last 15 years, which is, after all, Jewish high fantasy.

Yes...

ysabetwordsmith

8 years ago

Re: Yes...

ladymondegreen

8 years ago

the golem is probably the old canon, right? my personal favorite is probably this, umm, i guess it's urban fantasy:

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2716235-the-dyke-and-the-dybbuk
The golem is old canon, right. I wrote one into "The Other Truck."
(and of course, just as many presumably-xian authors write paganish fantasy, there's jewish author lev grossman and his narnia pastiche "the magicians", which iirc was a nyt bestseller.)
With such history, a Jew should write fantasy?
ROTFLMAO!

Okay, very well played.

But I still think Jewish high fantasy would be awesome. What would it mean to be Jewish in some other world where Jews weren't everyone else's doormat? Or where the history was retold, as is typical in fantasy, with each group transposed onto a fantasy race? (Nazi dragons O_O) What kind of a world would develop using Jewish principles and folklore? Forget dumb golems; maybe in J'arnia you have to beat one in a debate to get past it.

msstacy13

8 years ago

I wish there was a way to "like" this. Well played, well played indeed.

msstacy13

8 years ago


I KNEW there was a reason to saving the Jewish-inspired Peter Pan/Narnia mash-up I wrote back in college. It was finals week, that was my excuse.

Update it per your current skill level, but yes, the basic concept sounds appealing.

I still use some of the settings I started in junior high and high school. My main science fiction setting and main fantasy setting both date back that far.

Re: Well...

thesilentpoet

8 years ago

It so happens Jewishness and fantasy are things I have opinions about. And I completely disagree with the author.

And what that opinion is, is that being Jewish is Not Fun. Being the Jewish kid - especially in the Bible Belt - is Not Fun the way being Queer is Not Fun or having bad acne and being bad at team sports is Not Fun. Where do kids go when reality isn't fun? Fantasy. Or science fiction. Or hell, mythology. You notice that Jack Kirby was all about Norse stuff. You notice that when Ralph Bakshi decided to make fantasy films, Jewishness wasn't really in there (but his fixation on roadtrips was!).

Nobody's Christian, nobody's Jewish. You don't even have to think about the problem any more than Elric has to worry about zits or Conan has to feel bad about Belit not being interested in him. Jewishness is the last thing you want in your fantasy. You want your heritage to interrupt your reading about as much as you want to get into another fistfight with another halfback.

And I can't imagine I'm the only one of the potential audience who feels that way.

I really hate the way he has to drag the Shoah into this. Yes it was horrible and made a huge impact, but Jewishness before the Shoah wasn't safe or fun either, and the whole thing makes me pissed off in ways which are a rant for another time. I think a clever author could tie Robert Bloch's weird monsters and strange people, or how wistful and fantastic Maurice Sendak is, to any number of "Jewish experiences."
>>Jewishness is the last thing you want in your fantasy. You want your heritage to interrupt your reading about as much as you want to get into another fistfight with another halfback.<<

That's a fascinating perspective. I can see how it would make sense.

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paka

8 years ago

Yeah, I was wondering why Maurice Sendak seemed not to matter.

And your observations about Kirby and Bakshi strike me
as consistent with what Alan Sherman said about Jewish songwriters.

And you remind me also of something Lenny Bruce said:
We're the chosen people? Could you choose someone else?

I knew that my first comment
(With such history, a Jew should write fantasy?)
was funny, but I knew it was funny because it was not funny.
And I'm not just talking about Moses and David
and Esther and Judith and the Maccabees,
I'm talking about the individual, personal histories, too.
In Death of a Salesman, Bernard never talks about what he's doing,
he just does it, and there are Jews writing fantasy,
they're just not saying, "Oi, what I'm writing you should see!"
They're not working in dreidels and gefilte fish to make it Jewish,
they're not pouring Manischewitz all over the place
to give it a distinctly Jewish flavour.

Christians have this guy, this Jesus,
like MacArthur with his big line,
"I will return,"
so they have all this literature repeating this promise over and over,
just Santa Claus and Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer,
if you look at it hard enough.
But Jews have this messiah maybe more like Eisenhower,
and has he arrived in anyone's lifetime?
So we should be so special he arrives our lifetime?
So Jewish literature should be something less than pouring
a fourth cup of wine, and lighting a mennorah?
Something less than waiting another year? Another century?
Another epoch?
Yes, thank you.
Just in case you're curious about such a thing, Maurice Sendak collaborated with the dance company Pilobolus on a piece that was very blatantly about being Jewish (during WWII), which incorporated elements of fantasy, and certainly exemplified that "being Jewish is Not Fun". The creative process, and most of the finished result, are available on a documentary DVD titled _Last Dance_; excerpts of the DVD are posted on YouTube, under the name of the finished dance piece, "A Selection".

paka

8 years ago

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