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Poem: "Unspoken Noise"
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kelkyag From: kelkyag Date: September 21st, 2012 12:34 am (UTC) (Link)
More stray thoughts about the recent poems than about this one in particular.

The lurking shadow has been a lot more active in the poems this time around than in previous ones, where it mostly, well, lurked, and said little. Nice to get to know the quiet one a bit.

Where does the Bogeyman sleep, and/or what space does he call his own?

Having a lot of monsters in the family had repeatedly been a convenient way to make an end run around some light -- and not so light -- social problems. With this family, which is full of good-hearted folks, that's easy to cheer for. With monsters incorporated into a less good-natured family, more or less similar things seem like they could get very bad very quickly for mundane folks who have no defenses against them ...
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: September 21st, 2012 12:46 am (UTC) (Link)

Thoughts

>>The lurking shadow has been a lot more active in the poems this time around than in previous ones, where it mostly, well, lurked, and said little. Nice to get to know the quiet one a bit.<<

He did delurk more than usual! Some people are shy until they get to know you.

>> Where does the Bogeyman sleep, and/or what space does he call his own? <<

That's a prompt worth holding onto for future reference.

>> Having a lot of monsters in the family had repeatedly been a convenient way to make an end run around some light -- and not so light -- social problems. <<

They do have a little extra leeway in that regard. You use what you have.

>> With this family, which is full of good-hearted folks, that's easy to cheer for. With monsters incorporated into a less good-natured family, more or less similar things seem like they could get very bad very quickly for mundane folks who have no defenses against them ... <<

In my observation, no group is all one way. There's a jerk in every crowd, but there are also nice people in unexpected places. I suspect that the monsters who have a genteel streak would tend to seek out like-minded families, pretty much the way anybody tries to find compatible housemates. The more vicious ones ... probably have a wider selection of houses to choose from.

Someone mundane and unknowing might well be defensely. Someone mundane but alert to preternatural creatures, and savvy enough to do some research? There's a reason "our" monsters are wary of humans. I mean, sheesh, look at history and how people treat each other. Then look at how they treat the ones they've decided "aren't people."
kelkyag From: kelkyag Date: September 21st, 2012 01:21 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm thinking that a bully who's buddies with a not-so-nice lurking shadow or bogeyman or similar could do a *lot* of damage, physical or emotional, to an supernaturally-oblivious but otherwise perfectly nice mundane. Or to a lot of them.
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: September 21st, 2012 01:29 am (UTC) (Link)

Thoughts

Lurking shadow, yes; bogeyman, probably not, they have certain rules.
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: September 21st, 2012 01:49 am (UTC) (Link)

Well...

Dealing with bullies is within the rules. Terrorizing a genuinely good child isn't. There's a moral factor there, which is a spectrum, that's a big part of determining what a bogeyman can and can't do. An unscrupulous one would push as far as possible, which is creepy; but there are limits. Because that's a fundamental aspect of what a bogeyman IS, a threat against bad boys and girls. Sometimes people misinterpret that (as in "Not Mine") but the foundation is pretty secure.
kelkyag From: kelkyag Date: September 21st, 2012 01:54 am (UTC) (Link)
Interesting! But gremlins and shadows and probably some other monsters, not so much with the rules? And there seem to be things like the niggling suspicion that are inherently bad/evil/problematic?
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: September 21st, 2012 02:11 am (UTC) (Link)

Thoughts

>> Interesting! But gremlins and shadows and probably some other monsters, not so much with the rules? <<

Some types of entity have more rules than others, or firmer ones. They can also have very different types of rules. They are creatures born of thought, and their stories shape what they are and what they can or can't do.

So for instance, the monsters under-the-bed and in-the-closet relate to specific places. They can leave, but their powers particularly correspond to those locations, so they can fit where a body that size normally wouldn't, and travel between congruent locations, etc. They can bend the rules slightly (hide-a-bed couch sort of qualifies as a bed, locker sort of qualifies as a closet); but not, say, under a table or inside a drawer.

>> And there seem to be things like the niggling suspicion that are inherently bad/evil/problematic? <<

There are certainly things that overwhelmingly tend to have negative effects. But then, look at the creepy kid who's gotten attached to the black cloud. That thing is normally worse than a niggling suspicion, but well, some people keep pet tarantulas or scorpions. Conversely, gremlins are usually a damn nuisance, but there's one working as a guide. So there are hard rules, and then there are some traits that may simply be the path of least resistance or a matter of interpretation.

Then too, everything has a place and a purpose. A rattlesnake isn't evil, it's just a snake, and if you kill all of them then you're likely to have an excess of mice and rabbits.
siege From: siege Date: September 21st, 2012 02:06 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Thoughts

Gremlins aren't necessarily bad; they're tinkers, but their focus is often on creative destruction, rather than destruction for its own sake.
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