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Poem: "Whatever We Feed" - The Wordsmith's Forge
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Poem: "Whatever We Feed"
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ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: September 20th, 2012 07:03 am (UTC) (Link)

Thoughts

>> Why didn't the lurking shadow do more about the niggling suspicion than discourage feeding it, I wonder? <<

There is always a balance of positive and negative influences in the world. The more you mess with it, the more erratic the whole system becomes. So if you can avoid a disaster simply by stepping out of the way, that's usually a good idea.

>> In Thunder Without Rain, the daughter thought the boy with the dead eyes couldn't see the cloud, but now it seems he can? That ... doesn't seem like a positive development. <<

There are two possibilities: 1) He knew about it before, but didn't show that. Given that they only interacted in public, that's plausible. 2) He may have developed the awareness later, with more exposure.

>> And I worry about his reaction to this. <<

Yeah. Certainly he did something very far out of his usual routine, in revealing that attachment.

The interesting question this raises for me is: does a relationship count as symbiosis if the parties involved feel that they are gaining something from it, even if there is harm involved; or does it only count if there is mutual benefit without harm? Because I don't think they're really all that good for each other, but the attraction seems to be deep and mutual at this point in time.
rix_scaedu From: rix_scaedu Date: September 20th, 2012 09:07 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Thoughts

Oh dear, worrying thought. What if he thinks the cloud is the only one who cares about him...?
siege From: siege Date: September 20th, 2012 07:03 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Thoughts

Encouraging such a belief is one way that social predators and abusive relationships persist.
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: September 21st, 2012 02:27 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Thoughts

That is an established technique, yes. What's worse is that it's most effective when it's accurate. Way too many people fall through the cracks and have nobody really good in their lives. That leaves them vulnerable, and there are a lot of humans and other things that prey on that.
aubergine_pilot From: aubergine_pilot Date: October 10th, 2012 04:55 pm (UTC) (Link)

^ this

Yes.

I don't think I should go into detail (nobody likes having a life story puked on them when they're minding their own business, after all), but, ah. Yes. Yes, that is very true.
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: September 21st, 2012 03:23 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Thoughts

... which it could be, even. 0_o
rix_scaedu From: rix_scaedu Date: September 21st, 2012 08:38 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Thoughts

Which as you said above, is bad.
kelkyag From: kelkyag Date: September 20th, 2012 04:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
So if you can avoid a disaster simply by stepping out of the way, that's usually a good idea.

They can avoid a direct disaster for themselves, but the disaster the niggling suspicion might cause for someone else has the potential to create a lot of collateral damage which might affect them, even if they don't care about the damage to the person directly affected.

does a relationship count as symbiosis if the parties involved feel that they are gaining something from it, even if there is harm involved; or does it only count if there is mutual benefit without harm

I don't think I know enough about how what the cloud is or does, what's wrong with the boy, or how the two of them interact to make much of a guess. We know from other stories and backstories that what started out as human can become something else, and that what looks human might not be, in this place. That cloud seems like a bad thing for a normal human child, but perhaps that's so unlike what the boy is (now) that that's not a good yardstick -- perhaps they're a crack team of emotional predators, and while that's all kinds of bad for the folks around them, it's a pretty dandy matchup for them.
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: September 21st, 2012 03:33 am (UTC) (Link)

Thoughts

>>They can avoid a direct disaster for themselves, but the disaster the niggling suspicion might cause for someone else has the potential to create a lot of collateral damage which might affect them, even if they don't care about the damage to the person directly affected.<<

To a certain extent this is true. On other hooves ...

* Messing up the environment by killing things really can cause more damage.

* People who get into negative thought patterns tend to attract trouble. This is just one example of that.

* Sometimes the consequences of a poor choice can be a wakeup call.

>> I don't think I know enough about how what the cloud is or does, what's wrong with the boy, or how the two of them interact to make much of a guess. <<

I haven't figured it all out yet either. But the questions are interesting.

>> We know from other stories and backstories that what started out as human can become something else, and that what looks human might not be, in this place. <<

True.

>> That cloud seems like a bad thing for a normal human child, but perhaps that's so unlike what the boy is (now) that that's not a good yardstick -- perhaps they're a crack team of emotional predators, and while that's all kinds of bad for the folks around them, it's a pretty dandy matchup for them. <<

Yeah, it's definitely not good for people around them. I am starting to think they're a mutually loyal match though.
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