Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
Elizabeth Barrette
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Multiculturalism in SF

This essay talks about reasons for writing multicultural science fiction.  It's not bad.  But really?  If you need an article like this in the first place, it's probably not going to help much.  The really good futurists  have no trouble looking at a diverse world and envisioning a diverse future, or peeling off slivers that are something other than the currently fashionable powerbase.  Consider Firefly, for instance.  That's one of the most chromatically plausible futures I've seen, despite the fact that my crisis litany ends with "... and thank the gods we don't live in a universe scripted by Joss Whedon."
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I liked the explanation someone came up with for why everyone in the background in Buffy's hometown in 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' was white - only the white people were stupid enough to disbelieve the evidence of their own eyes and ears and thus stay. ['Neck rupture' as a plausible cause of death?]

Everyone else took a few months, at most, to suss out what was going on then left for somewhere (almost anywhere really) healthier.
I like that explanation.
Nice one!
That's pretty much what I figured. Hispanic and black cultures in particular tend to be threat-aware and folklore-fluent, at least until you get into the assimilated upper class, particularly in comparison to a white mainstream. There were a few people of color represented among allies and vampires, but for the most part, it looks like everyone with a brain scrammed out of town.
I dunno, that smacks of the "women are far too intelligent to waste their time in politics" argument. If I were a person of colour I'd find that patronising. I'm white and I find it patronising anyway.
As I recall, at the time the online chat group I was reading really wanted the answer to be that or something like it rather than 'someone decided all the extras should be white.'
I don't think you get my point.
Yes, it may be patronising to everyone concerned. I also don't believe that was ever the intent. What the group was trying to do was come up with an in-world explanation for an observation about that world.

What seemed to be the probable real world cause was something I didn't want connected with something I enjoyed - I wanted it to be better than that hence I preferred this suggestion.

ideealisme

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rix_scaedu

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ideealisme

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It could be worse. We could be living in a George R. R. Martin novel.
At first I just looked at that and laughed.

Then I thought ... way the hell too many people, most of them white people, most of them douchebags, who are obsessed with money and politics, and who are paranoid about being invaded.

Disturbingly the main difference is that global warming summer is coming, rather than winter.

I really did not need that parallel wriggling around through my brain.
Oh gods, you're right! o_O
I don't have a sister so I should be OK, but point taken.
Now I have a quibble. I think Caitlin Matthews translated a poem that shows how medieval British audiences would have seen a Black princess. Briefly: Ragnell, yes; Guinevere, probably not.

So, if I'd been casting, would I have insisted on casting someone with pale skin (much admired in this period) as Guinevere? Of course not. That's what makeup is for!
Also she makes a great deal about Ciaran Hinds coming from "the one island in Europe Rome could never conquer".

If she is referring to my wretched homeland, the Romans didn't conquer it because it had no strategic value and they couldn't be bothered. From the name they gave it - literally, "land of winter", sounds like they didn't fancy the weather either.
I think if I were casting, my default would be "mixed" unless I had a specific reason not to -- like matching a particular historic culture. Then I'd look for people of that ethnic group or something like it, and I'd probably check to see what the mix at the time would have been, if known. But doing any single culture would make me want to do something different for the next piece.

It would be an interesting way to get to know most of the non-white actors fairly quickly -- there aren't enough roles written for characters of color, and many casters favor white folks for extras. So I suspect that any halfway-decent company that was consistently diverse about casting would be passed around rather fast.

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