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Do Not Mess with the Mommy
You break into her house, she shoots you dead.  So while we're at it, don't diss teen moms. 

Things like this are why I support the right to bear arms.  I want people to be careful with weapons, yes, but I want them to have the option of using deadly force when threatened.  I am totally okay with killing someone who wants to hurt you or your family.

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msstacy13 From: msstacy13 Date: January 5th, 2012 01:41 am (UTC) (Link)
She's done more for the NRA than Charleton Heston ever did.

And, yeah, even though I dislike guns,
I'm an advocate of the right to keep and bear them,
even if the well-regulated militia in any instance
has only one member.
kimuro From: kimuro Date: January 5th, 2012 02:27 am (UTC) (Link)
One caveat - if you are attacked, make up your mind pdq that you WILL inflict grievious bodily harm because there is not the slightest chance that your attacker has not made that decision already. If you defend yourself, defend yourself aggressively - try to hurt the sob, and hurt him bad! He's not playing nice and neither should you be.
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: January 5th, 2012 02:38 am (UTC) (Link)


Know yourself is the first rule of self-defense, whether you choose martial or pacifist techniques. You need to understand which you will be comfortable using and which you will not, in order to make effective choices.
paka From: paka Date: January 5th, 2012 02:45 am (UTC) (Link)
I am totally okay with killing someone who wants to hurt you or your family.

Unfortunately, given that a lot of societally legitimized stuff is basically oriented to harm me and my family, I don't find this to be a practicable argument.
dichroic From: dichroic Date: January 5th, 2012 08:32 am (UTC) (Link)
So wait: if I piece all the details together, she got married at 16 to a man in his fifties, got pregnant about a year later, dealt with his dying of lung cancer probably during the entire pregnancy and with his death when the baby was two months old, and has the cool to do everything right in a deadly situation - barricaded the front door, got 911 on the phone, got the gun out and loaded, and didn't shoot until after the man actually came in the house.

Wow. And people say Heinlein's women aren't realistic. That's the woman you want at your back after the world falls apart.
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: January 5th, 2012 08:36 am (UTC) (Link)


I was going to mention earlier that she reminded me of Sarah Connor, but I forgot. I could totally see her crushing a killer robot.
dichroic From: dichroic Date: January 5th, 2012 08:40 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Well...

I was thinking Dora, in Time Enough For Love. All she needs is a few emeralds.
From: siliconshaman Date: January 5th, 2012 08:40 am (UTC) (Link)
Funny, I was thinking that. Heinlein knew what he was talking about.
From: siliconshaman Date: January 5th, 2012 08:44 am (UTC) (Link)
When it comes down to it, I'd prefer a well armed [and trained] populace, with a clear cut legal right to use deadly force against an armed intruder.

Regretfully, I live in the UK.
cissa From: cissa Date: January 5th, 2012 09:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
Also- you don't necessarily know they're armed until it's too late. It's easy to second-guess afterward, of course.
From: siliconshaman Date: January 5th, 2012 09:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
See, that's kind of the problem here. Intruders in the UK may or may not be armed, probably will be somehow.. but legally, we're not allowed to own guns. So they know we aren't.

You can imagine how that plays out.

But the police here advise that even in situations like the above, one should 'leave it to the professionals'...i.e do nothing to defend yourself.

It's pretty crazy.
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: January 6th, 2012 12:38 am (UTC) (Link)


In the end, there are no dangerous weapons, only dangerous people. You can kill someone with a brick, or a fire-iron, or a paperclip, or your bare hands, if you're determined enough. And even a crook armed with a gun, if he assumes his target is defenseless, may fall to someone who was quicker with one of those.

It's always a choice whether to follow the rules or fight to protect yourself, in most situations, if the rules aren't keeping you safe, they're not a good thing to rely on.
aldersprig From: aldersprig Date: January 5th, 2012 01:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
I guess you did see it! :-D
From: rhodielady_47 Date: January 5th, 2012 02:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
I read about this maybe two hours ago.
I think it's a great pity the buddy who came along to help his friend break into a widow's trailer didn't have the balls to come in as well. Now we're stuck with having to give that stupid waste of space a trial.
What a pity hanging's no longer allowed!
cluegirl From: cluegirl Date: January 5th, 2012 03:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
Being a Rape Crisis Counselor, I too absolutely support the right of an intended victim to use deadly force in defense of him/herself. At best rates, the police cannot get to the site of a home-invasion in progress for three to seven minutes, while it takes an adult male under a minute to kick in a door, and if armed, take down a surprised lone occupant. And that's presupposing the intended victim has a panic button they can press before they're subdued.

When my home was invaded, the ambulance arrived first, in five minutes. The police did not arrive for twenty. At that point I pretty much cemented it that my safety really was entirely down to me, and the 'legal authorities' could not be trusted to see to it.

Well done, her, though, for realizing what was going on in time to save herself and her baby.
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: January 5th, 2012 07:49 pm (UTC) (Link)


Ideally, people help each other. In practice, most of the time if you can't take care of yourself, it won't get done.
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