1) What is a Pagan leader?
2) What kinds of things do people want a Pagan leader to do?
3) What are some personality traits that suit someone for leadership roles in the Pagan community?
4) What are some skills that a Pagan leader needs?
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April 22 2008, 02:47:56 UTC 13 years ago
April 22 2008, 05:03:01 UTC 13 years ago
Yes, online leadership counts too. Moderating a list can be quite a job.
April 22 2008, 20:12:42 UTC 13 years ago
but did you have to stick it on my eyeball? Ow.
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April 22 2008, 04:59:26 UTC 13 years ago
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April 22 2008, 06:08:30 UTC 13 years ago
Trouble is, not examining leadership tends to have unsatisfactory results.
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April 22 2008, 16:48:15 UTC 13 years ago
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April 22 2008, 19:00:29 UTC 13 years ago
I think a lot of pagans are aware that if you keep the same hierarchical structure, you are likely to get the same results even if there is a different person at the top of the structure.
Of course, that doesn't mean they have a clue about how to change the structure in any constructive fashion.
I think that's why so many decide they want to just opt out of having any hierarchical structure.
But having "no leader", and no structure, can be dangerous too. I remember being a part of a writing group where one person (yes, a pagan) was organizing all the meetings, running all the meetings, reminding people when it was their turn to contribute or host a gathering, etc. Admittedly, she also occasionally stated that she was NOT the leader of the group. But she was acting as a leader in everything the group did, so everyone else perceived she was the de facto leader, never mind that there were no elected officers or anything like that. This, plus her characteristically emphatic way of speaking her opinions, plus a lack of care to make a distinction between her personal opinions and things she had checked out as facts (and also a lack of considering how her words would be taken by the folks who clearly were treating her as the leader), led to some substantial misunderstandings and hurt feelings, which were not helped at all by her refusing to take any responsibility for the actions she took that (in substantial part) led to the mess, because she "was not the leader". In her opinion, people shouldn't have interpreted her words as if she were leading, no matter how many leader-type actions she was doing.
So, that was an instance where people who were used to a hierarchical structure, and did not choose any particular structure for their group. But when one person led, they followed as if a hierarchical structure were in place.
In cases like this, people can (and I think, are likely to) interpret what's happening as if it were a hierarchical structure--and, in fact, the type of hierarchical structure that they are most used to for the situation they are in.
I think pagans do want something different from our leaders than the kind of organized hierarchy we see in most Christian churches. I think discussions like this are very valuable, because to have a different outcome you do need to do things differently. And to have a different outcome in a group, the individual members need to have some ongoing cues that this isn't just like the structure they grew up in, or they will continue to act (and act out) in the same ways in reaction (pro or con) to the structure they perceive, even if others in the group perceive the structure, and their respective roles in it, differently.
Hmm...that sentence is awfully convoluted. I don't know if I said that effectively, but I'm running out of lunch hour, so I'll send it out and if it's confusing, I'll try to clarify later.
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April 22 2008, 23:09:37 UTC 13 years ago
Something I'll be discussing in a later installment is different types of group organization. There are lots of different ways to organize a group. Some are easier than others. Some tend to work better than others. If people want a non-hierarchical group then they need to understand what that means, how to assemble one, and how to maintain it.
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April 27 2008, 20:49:08 UTC 13 years ago
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Re: Sorry, it's taken me a while to collect these thoughts...
April 29 2008, 02:14:02 UTC 13 years ago
You sure are right about how hard it is to talk about Pagan leadership, when it's not one thing but many things, with different people and groups involved. But at least we've made a start.