Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
Elizabeth Barrette
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The Right to Bear Arms ... on Campus

I like the right to bear arms.  I will grudgingly agree that some places, such as bars, are places where guns probably shouldn't be.  This bill proposes allowing guns on college campuses.  I think that's a great idea.  It would make school shootings briefer, because one of the armed students or teachers might manage to take out the shooter.  And it might help discourage rape, too.
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Although the idea behind it is that the government ~knowing~ everyone has a gun
will be less oppressive.
I'm not sure it actually works that way.
*Raucous laughter*

*Wipes a tear from her eye caused by laughter* Oh, that's awesome. Like a military with tanks, machine guns, and nuclear bombs is going to give a shit about a few puny guns in the hands of its citizens. Might as well take the military on with pea shooters.
Do keep in mind that the US constitition was written in the late 18th century;
neither the rifle nor mass production had yet been invented.
At that time, any group of farmers could shoulder their muskets
and give an army a run for its money.
It was precisely that which gave rise to the US constitution, in fact.
Yes. And now the 2nd amendment is obsolete and needs to be repealed.
If I thought that might happen,
I'd probably buy a gun and close ranks with the other loonies.
Practically the first thing Hitler did when he was voted into office was bann the ownership of guns through a series of ever-tightening laws.
By the time the police started rounding up and loading onto cattle cars bound for the concentration camps the jews, gypsies, mentally/physically handicapped, and etc. the general public in Germany had no guns of any sort left to protect themselves with.
Think about it: Would you let yourself be forcibly herded onto a cattle car, leaving all your belongings behind never to be seen or heard from ever again?
The moment you bring Hitler into the conversation, you lose all credibility. It's a moot point, anyway, as Britain has strict anti-gun laws, too, yet is not a racist tyrannical empire. Strict anti-gun laws do not equal OMG EVIL.
Just so you will know this from now on:
1) Before WW2, Hitler and the Nazi's were actually considered a force for good in Europe since they weren't Fascists nor were they Communists.
They actually had a lot of sympathizers throughout both the US and Great Britain before Hitler declared war (apparently nobody liked the Jews back then). It wasn't until word started trickling out of Germany about the concentration camps that people stopped publicly liking the Nazi's.
There's a book called La Popessa which is the memoirs of the nun who was the housekeeper for the pope during WW2--she had some very interesting things to say about WW2 and what life was like back then in general. It was a real eye opener for me back when I read it, perhaps it would be for you too. (Perhaps your local library has a copy you can read?)

2) Another tidbit for you to think about:
America has strict laws that prohibit convicted criminals from owning guns.
The problem is that criminals don't obey the law. They buy their guns illegally and probably from the same people that drug addicts buy their drugs from.
I imagine the same thing occurs in Great Britain too except for one thing: Honest law-abiding people don't have guns but the criminals do.
:|
And yet somehow they manage just fine.
No, they don't. They have just as much nasty violence and murder in urban areas. They just tend to use different weapons, since it's easier to interdict a small island.
You don't seem to comprehend the simple fact that guns are simply morally Wrong. They are simply too inherently dangerous, and designed to be so from the word go, to be allowed. Every damn last one of them needs to be melted down.
I do not consider guns to be morally wrong. Many people consider them to be perfectly acceptable. (Remember that guns can be used for many purposes, including recreational target-shooting or hunting for the table.)

I would prefer a world with minimal violence. In a world with lots of violence, however, I prefer that people have generous options for self-defense. If someone were trying to harm me, I wouldn't hesitate to do them serious or fatal harm in self-defense; and I would consider that self-defense to be morally laudable.

There are many sets of moral guidelines in the world. Most of them disagree.

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