Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
Elizabeth Barrette
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The Right to Bear Arms ... on Campus

I like the right to bear arms.  I will grudgingly agree that some places, such as bars, are places where guns probably shouldn't be.  This bill proposes allowing guns on college campuses.  I think that's a great idea.  It would make school shootings briefer, because one of the armed students or teachers might manage to take out the shooter.  And it might help discourage rape, too.
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marina_bonomi

March 17 2011, 20:07:08 UTC 10 years ago Edited:  March 17 2011, 20:08:54 UTC

*If you have a gun, you can use it to defend yourself against home robbery, mugging, carjacking, rape, and other violent crimes.*

Well, yes, but here usually the thing is 'run if you can and call the police', I actually don't hear of many armed robberies in homes, rather the 'wait for the owners to be out' kind of robbery, cars also get stolen when parked, and muggers are more likely to grab a purse from a scooter than to threathen people with a gun. The sentence one is likely to get is way stiffer for a crime involving weapons than one without and most thieves over here don't go around armed.

Re statistics I found a comparative one regarding 13 countries (published in 2004) it appears that the rate of rapes per 1 million peope per year in the US was 7.5 times that of Italy http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violenza_sessuale ('Stati Uniti' is the US, 'Italia' Italy)
>> Well, yes, but here usually the thing is 'run if you can and call the police',<<

Preferably, avoid conflicts in the first place.

Next preferable, run: if there is a nearby place of safety, or if you first disable the assailant so he cannot readily pursue you.

However, if there is not a nearby refuge or cover, running simply gives an opponent a clear target on your back. In such cases, fighting is more likely to be effective. (Submission is an option, but that involves placing trust in the mercy of someone who's already demonstrated a violent mindframe.)

>> I actually don't hear of many armed robberies in homes, rather the 'wait for the owners to be out' kind of robbery, cars also get stolen when parked, and muggers are more likely to grab a purse from a scooter than to threathen people with a gun.<<

Stealth crimes like that are often more common, and are best dissuaded by other means than weaponry. A gun is for face-to-face conflicts in which the attacker means serious threat to your person, property, or those under your protection. It is up to individuals to decide what risks are most relevant in their area, and what steps they wish to take accordingly.

>> Re statistics I found a comparative one regarding 13 countries (published in 2004) it appears that the rate of rapes per 1 million peope per year in the US was 7.5 times that of Italy <<

I'm not surprised. Alas, America isn't as civilized these days, compared to some other places. It used to be on the moral forefront.

*However, if there is not a nearby refuge or cover, running simply gives an opponent a clear target on your back*

You see, here usually it won't because the assailer more often than not isn't equipped with firearms.

What I hear most of over here in the news, as crimes were guns are involved, are either organized-crime shootings (mafia clan rivalries, drug-trafficking gang-wars), home violence (gun-owning husband who shoots the ex-wife and/or her new man, or homicide/suicide before a separation) and few and far between attempted robberies in which the victim had a gun and things got really ugly, even more so since the average Joe usually hesitates at the idea of shooting a human being, but to the robber, since the victim has a gun in hand he is a menace.
>> Well, yes, but here usually the thing is 'run if you can and call the police',<<

Hahahaha! And the disabled should stay home where they are safer, because they can't run.

Yes, in an ideal world everyone would just run away from the big bad bully, mugger, rapist, murderer, etc. and everyone would live happily ever after.

But that isn't here in the US, the land of the desperate, the lawless, the "me first, devil take the hindmost" type of "rugged individualist".
Actually one of the most formidable people I know is a fat lady in a wheelchair. Lee Martindale has gotten death threats over her size activism. She can swordfight, carries guns, and if I remember right is also a martial artist. Anyone picking a fight with her would be in for some very nasty surprises.

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