Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
Elizabeth Barrette
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The Right to Bear Arms ... on Campus

I like the right to bear arms.  I will grudgingly agree that some places, such as bars, are places where guns probably shouldn't be.  This bill proposes allowing guns on college campuses.  I think that's a great idea.  It would make school shootings briefer, because one of the armed students or teachers might manage to take out the shooter.  And it might help discourage rape, too.
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What I wonder is, why aren't tasers more popular? They aren't perfect, but they might make effective deterrences.
They're short range, harder to aim, and you only get one shot at a distance. If you miss with that one, your only remaining option is contact attack using the prongs. And tasers can kill, although people commonly overlook that. They're a good option for certain circumstances, though.

When choosing a weapon for self-protection, it's vital to do the research and figure out what kind would best suit your needs.
Sure, but imagine tasers became popular, instead of the media creating all this mystique around guns - then there'd be a lot more focus on making them better. They might have similar deterrent effect, if robbers knew that a majority of people had tasers.

On the other paw, I could see robbers using tasers to rob people too. Shoot, grab purse or wallet, run away.

So there's still no substitute for effective law enforcement, IMO!
>>Sure, but imagine tasers became popular, instead of the media creating all this mystique around guns - then there'd be a lot more focus on making them better.<<

That is possible.

>>On the other paw, I could see robbers using tasers to rob people too. Shoot, grab purse or wallet, run away.<<

This already happens sometimes.

>>So there's still no substitute for effective law enforcement, IMO!<<

Effective law enforcement is important. However, it's a downline solution.

What we really need is a society that teaches people to be socially healthy and responsible, makes it easy to earn a comfortable living in a lawful manner, provides accessible and effective means of redressing grievances, and refrains from creating situations that consistently generate crime. Then we could push down the violence and lawbreaking to the minimum level of mayhem caused by the fact that some people just suck and shit happens. That level is tolerable and rarely ruins people's lives. What we have now is a flaming disaster of social dysfunction.
Question is, when did we not have a flaming disaster of social dysfunction? };)
It's been going downhill for a few decades. For a while, America tended to be toward the front of the moral progression curve.

Fully functional and healthy, though? Er, before the European invasion. America had several widespread and stable societies then -- one of which, the Iroquois, gave prevailing inspiration for the democratic structure of the U.S.A.

No society is perfect. However, some society has managed to do well for each main aspect of civilization, and certain societies score well in a variety of categories. I think it would be prudent to look at the functionality of each society, see where its flaws are, then look at societies who do well in those categories to figure out what improvements could be made. People pretty much HATE that idea.
Think it's more accurate to say that people disagree about the goals, and thusly about the means by which those goals should be achieved. };)

Peace? Bad for the defense industry. A healthier society? Bad for fast food and health care. More government, less capitalism? Few see profit in that, pun intended.

There's an engineering theorem, design things so they work naturally - for example, water flows downhill, so if you want to design pipes, don't put the water reservoir at the bottom of the building, put it at the top and let gravity help you out. In a similar fashion, if you want to design a solution to society's problems, the solutions are best if they create conditions where people will naturally act in a better fashion.
>>Think it's more accurate to say that people disagree about the goals, and thusly about the means by which those goals should be achieved.<<

I agree that this is a root cause of many problems. Running a society mainly for profit seems to result in a less-than-functional society ... that doesn't even have a good economy. Capitalism is like socialism with fleas.

>>There's an engineering theorem, design things so they work naturally - for example, water flows downhill, so if you want to design pipes, don't put the water reservoir at the bottom of the building, put it at the top and let gravity help you out. In a similar fashion, if you want to design a solution to society's problems, the solutions are best if they create conditions where people will naturally act in a better fashion.<<

Yes! I have heard those rules phrased as:

Find a way to make it do what you want it to do while letting it do what it wants to do. [Engineering]

Make it easy to do the right thing and hard to do the wrong thing. [Animal training]

I'm a former gun owner, sold it before I moved to NZ partly because of the much-stricter laws here and partly because I was supposed to be coming over as a visitor & not a resident initially.

I am still mixed on the guns on campus, I think there are people who, if armed, would possibly make a difference in a mass shooting if they were in the right place at the right time. And I think there are people who would just create more casualties. But at the end of the day, I do believe that it should be a right to be able to own & carry a gun. (I also believe in certain restrictions like licenses and background checks). I also believe that criminals won't obey laws regarding restrictions so the average person should also have the right to choose if they want to defend themselves.
I'm especially pleased to hear from someone with mixed feelings on this issue, because so many people are really polarized about it.
I went from strict anti-gun, afraid of them & afraid to touch them, to learning to shoot & owning a gun. I had to learn to shoot for the National Park Law Enforcement Academy, even though as county rangers we weren't armed. I failed my qualifications partly from my fears, and as a result failed the Academy (it was a mandatory part of the certificate). Since we didn't carry for our job I was still employed at the end.

I realised shooting was a good stress relief, and the indoor range was run well so I could go shooting in any weather/lighting. I had a sweet 9mm HK semiauto handgun. I picked it because it was the one rental at the range that wouldn't jam despite the abuse & dirt put through it.
A good gun and good maintenance are vital. Without the latter, the former becomes even more important. Of course, I generally tend to admire equipment that can take a licking and keep on ticking.
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