Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
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Amazon Cuts Off Illinois Affiliates

So far, I haven't heard from Amazon.com directly about this, but there are various article discussing the fact that Amazon has cut off Illinois affiliates.  I am vexed over this decision, since my affiliate account has earned some money, which Amazon will probably just pocket.
Tags: cyberspace theory, economics, illinois
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If they owe it to you, they should give it to you, since at this point you cannot earn more. However, getting a live person at Amazon is not easy.

Look into Barnes and Noble. They will not have issues with charging sales tax.
As far as I know, Amazon is only paying off accounts above the standard payment threshold.

I am considering Barnes & Noble, or some other book link/ad service.

arielstarshadow

March 12 2011, 01:03:23 UTC 10 years ago Edited:  March 12 2011, 01:04:15 UTC

Ah, I see it's for the same reason as Colorado. I can't blame them. They are fighting against internet taxation.
You should get an email; I got mine this morning.
It tells you that they will pay out everything in your account at a certain end date. (Mine was July something; it didn't matter to me because I haven't earned anything anyway.)
No email, but my service sucks. Might you be willing to forward me a copy of the message you got?

Re: Hmm...

jenny_evergreen

10 years ago

Re: Hmm...

ysabetwordsmith

10 years ago

I got e-mail about it from them several months ago. I was irked by them declaring a law unconstitutional, since last I heard nobody from Amazon had purchased a Supreme Court seat yet.

Yesterday, they informed me that my affiliate program would be suspended on April 15 until I moved out of state.
Anyone can say that they consider a law unconstitutional, hence the popularity of lawsuits. Actually making that official is the Supreme Court's job, although they've made some very obvious errors on several occasions, such as purporting that corporations are persons with civil rights (thus impairing the political voice of actual human beings).
Technically, the Supreme Court cannot make an error,
as there is no higher court to rule it an error.
Kinda like papal infallibility.
But the Supreme Court has later reversed a number of its own decisions.

And there are Supreme Court decisions with which I disagree.
While my own opinion is not changed by the court's decision,
that decison is not an error.

For comparison, President Eisenhower disagreed with the Supreme Court decision
regarding school desegregation, but sent the army to enforce it.
He would not have done so if the decision were, in fact, an error.

If you have the authority to regard a Supreme Court decision as an error,
you must either guard that authority by force--resort to fascism--
or grant it to everyone--descending into anarchy.

Re: Well...

mtrose2

10 years ago

Re: Well...

msstacy13

10 years ago

And I'm sorry to be diffcult,
but did you even glance at Justice Kenendy's majority opinion?

I particularly liked his conclusion:
When word concerning the plot of the movie Mr. Smith Goes to Washington reached the circles of Government, some officials sought, by persuasion, to discourage its distribution. See Smoodin, “Compulsory” Viewing for Every Citizen: Mr. Smith and the Rhetoric of Reception, 35 Cinema Journal 3, 19, and n. 52 (Winter 1996) (citing Mr. Smith Riles Washington, Time, Oct. 30, 1939, p. 49); Nugent, Capra’s Capitol Offense, N. Y. Times, Oct. 29, 1939, p. X5. Under Austin , though, officials could have done more than discourage its distribution—they could have banned the film. After all, it, like Hillary, was speech funded by a corporation that was critical of Members of Congress. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington may be fiction and caricature; but fiction and caricature can be a powerful force.

Modern day movies, television comedies, or skits on Youtube.com might portray public officials or public policies in unflattering ways. Yet if a covered transmission during the blackout period creates the background for candidate endorsement or opposition, a felony occurs solely because a corporation, other than an exempt media corporation, has made the “purchase, payment, distribution, loan, advance, deposit, or gift of money or anything of value” in order to engage in political speech. 2 U. S. C. §431(9)(A)(i). Speech would be suppressed in the realm where its necessity is most evident: in the public dialogue preceding a real election. Governments are often hostile to speech, but under our law and our tradition it seems stranger than fiction for our Government to make this political speech a crime. Yet this is the statute’s purpose and design.

Re: Well...

msstacy13

10 years ago

I'm sorry to be difficult,
but any time a state legislature enacts or considers a law restricting abortion,
zillions of people declare it unconstitutional.
Here's a link to a somewhat more detailed article regarding Amazon's actions in response to the new Illinois tax-collection law:

http://blogs.forbes.com/janetnovack/2011/03/10/illinois-governor-signs-amazon-internet-sales-tax-law/
And you should be talking to your state legislators.
If you feel they are wrong, tell them so,
and if you feel they are right, stand with them
EVEN IF IT COSTS YOU MONEY.
I do that all the time.

In this case, it's pretty obvious that trying to tax cyber-based companies in the manner the states are attempting is doomed to failure: as long as those companies can shift to somewhere else, many of them are doing so. Texas got hit worse: Amazon closed a warehouse there, firing over a hundred workers.
But wait, there's more: http://www.illinoispreppersnetwork.com/2010/12/illinois-internet-sales-tax.html

For those who don't want to click, there's a newish line in the Illinois tax papers for an estimate of "use taxes" you would have paid if you hadn't bought anything from out of state via travel, internet or catalog.

It's voluntary now, but I suspect that if they had a way to enforce it, they would. You can't leave it blank. They expect you to write a 0 in it.
Mhm.

Not only would they enforce it,
if they find a way to verify the figure,
they'd prosecute for tax fraud/evasion.

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