The Words We Say
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Character notes for "Good Food Choices Are Good Investments"
These are the character notes for "Good Food Choices Are Good Investments." Penina Trueblood -- She has tawny-fair skin, blue eyes,…
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Poem: "Good Food Choices Are Good Investments"
This poem is spillover from the May 4, 2021 Poetry Fishbowl. It was inspired by prompts from chanter1944, technoshaman, and Anonymous. It…
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Poem: "Who Can Create the Future"
This poem is spillover from the May 4, 2021 Poetry Fishbowl. It was inspired by prompts from chanter1944, technoshaman, and Anonymous. It…
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Character notes for "Good Food Choices Are Good Investments"
These are the character notes for "Good Food Choices Are Good Investments." Penina Trueblood -- She has tawny-fair skin, blue eyes,…
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Poem: "Good Food Choices Are Good Investments"
This poem is spillover from the May 4, 2021 Poetry Fishbowl. It was inspired by prompts from chanter1944, technoshaman, and Anonymous. It…
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Poem: "Who Can Create the Future"
This poem is spillover from the May 4, 2021 Poetry Fishbowl. It was inspired by prompts from chanter1944, technoshaman, and Anonymous. It…
January 10 2011, 14:31:18 UTC 10 years ago
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I thought what I wanted was fiscal responsibility, greater state than federal power, and less government over all?
What if this is what the shooting was supposed to do? Turn us against each other? Why are people taking the bait? I am very disappointed and disheartened.
January 10 2011, 15:03:46 UTC 10 years ago
Yeah, that's pretty much what I wanted too.
January 10 2011, 15:06:21 UTC 10 years ago
I am really disappointed in my friends and acquaintances. This is not the community of diversity and tolerance that they talk about. This is not the considered 'assess before we assume' environment that they have told me we all belong in. I don't expect moral, laudable or even responsible behavior from politicians and the media. But my own fellow citizens, and people who know and interact with me? :(
January 10 2011, 15:29:00 UTC 10 years ago
In particular, he shot someone that Sarah Palin put a croshairs on (well technically, her district, not her personally). Because goodness knows, no true scotsman would ever shoot someone. And the fact that Dkos had, the prior day announced "gabby giffords is dead to me", was completely different. But remember, before anyone knew who he was, before.... Before the echoes had died down, the buzz was all about how it was Palins fault.
Really, I am having difficulties with this one. I am having trouble maintaining courtesy with people calling for my imprisonment. I am having trouble remembering *why* I should retain courtesy.
January 10 2011, 15:41:18 UTC 10 years ago
Thoughts
January 10 2011, 20:05:32 UTC 10 years ago
I'm not sure I'd call anything obvious at this point. The input I'm seeing is still scattered and contradictory. I've not spotted a good, thorough, rational, nonpartisan analysis yet.
>> And why does no one talk about the conservative judge he also shot?<<
I've seen a numeration of victims and listings with partial descriptions. Don't think I've seen one talking about the conservative judge in that specific phrasing. If you spot one, point me to it? A discussion of hit (and possibly aimed) targets could be useful. Sheesh, if nobody else does it, why don't you? You're asking good questions here.
One possibility that occurs to me, considering that the hit targets included a Democrat and a conservative, is that the aimed target(s) may have been along the lines of "the government" or "durn politicians" rather than "Democrats" or "conservatives."
>>I am really disappointed in my friends and acquaintances. This is not the community of diversity and tolerance that they talk about. This is not the considered 'assess before we assume' environment that they have told me we all belong in.<<
*sigh* Let's say I've not been thrilled with some what my liberal friends have been posting.
Still, consider that most folks gravitate toward discussions and newsfeeds that agree with them. That creates an echo-chamber effect. The first bunch of news you hear on a topic will usually reflect your views closely. If you want a counterpoint you have to hunt for it. That's why I keep an ear out for conservative friends and a handful of conservative feeds.
So, now I know that the hit targets weren't politically monofocal; that undercuts (but does not disprove completely) the argument that the shooter was influenced by Republican ranters. If the rant advocates want to uphold their argument, they have to come up with a way of explaining that data point. However, just saying "he's crazy" isn't sufficient either; while there's some evidence of mental imbalance, he still had to have some kind of goal in mind. If it was as vague as "I hate the world and want to shoot everybody" then that requires ruling out more specific targeting first. And figuring out what was going on in the mind of a disturbed individual during a shooting, based on the fragments of his work that we can see and the glorified slush pile of modern media ... will be difficult if not impossible. So people take shortcuts by reading someone else's conclusions, and that's how we get the barking madness now going on.
>> I don't expect moral, laudable or even responsible behavior from politicians and the media. But my own fellow citizens, and people who know and interact with me?<<
Well, at least your audience and mine go berserk less often than average.
It is just so, so easy to lump people together in big bundles and sort them all as if they were the same. The culture encourages that too -- when you have racism, sexism, and a host of other isms then people get into that habit. Politics is just another mass-sort-function. It has exactly the same drawback as all the other isms, which is that people aren't cookie-cutters. (I saw a bumper sticker the other day, "Prayerfully pro-choice." Now that must be an uncomfortably small minority stance.) If you judge people based on stereotypes, you'll run up your error rate. Then it's hard to get people to talk with each other, and that causes lots of yelling, and we're right back on the vicious circle ferris-wheel in which everyone is unhappy and little if anything gets accomplished.
January 11 2011, 00:07:25 UTC 10 years ago