Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
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Driving Someone to Suicide

cbpotts has presented an excellent metaphor of driving someone to suicide.  A hunting pack runs down a prey animal until it collapses and dies. 

Now consider that bullies feed on their victims.  They attack to cause pain.  They absorb the energy that bleeds from emotional wounds.  It makes them feel better, stronger.  So don't be surprised that the energy loss can kill the victim -- because energy is neither created nor destroyed, only transferred or transformed.  Bullying is an odd, subtle bit of cannibalism that is often condoned because people don't realize what is really happening.  People are eating each other.
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*Tweets this*

Have I told you about a species I have in my main fantasy world, a species called the Harun Daha Dahe {hah-roon dah-hah dah-hey} (Harun for short)? They started out as pretty good shapeshifters who happened to eat meat, but were peaceful toward other Sapients. But many of the people of their home planet (mostly humans, but some draconics and other species) were afraid of their shapeshifting abilities. They were persecuted mercilessly. Nothing they said or did stopped the onslaught. Rather than fight back, they got better at hiding. They accidentally discovered they all had an inherent magical ability: magically-aided evolution. To solve a problem, they could evolve a solution before the problem killed them (or, in other cases, adapt to problems that had already killed one or more of them). For example, if one was drowning, the gift might bless him with spontaneous gills. If it was enough of a problem that it was happening to a lot of them, critical mass would update the DNA of all Harun to include gills.

This gift helped them get better at hiding, better at shapeshifting, which only made the others more scared and hateful and determined. The persecution intensified. Around and around it kept going for several hundred years. When the Harun developed immunity to fire and even having their heart pierced or their head cut off could no longer kill them, things got REALLY bad; the persecutors started using magic against them in force. Finally, it got to be too much and the peaceful Harun finally lost their shit (to use a colloquialism) and basically went insane. Not all Harun are insane, but most are. They are now a bit of a peculiar combo, psychologically; able to control/suppress emotions so well that they usually seem completely without emotion, but sociopathic against anyone who isn't Harun (and occasionally against their own kind, under the right circumstances) and power-hungry. They're basically on a quest to have nothing to fear from anyone, and make everyone else have a damned good reason to fear them, stealing DNA from other species when their own magical gift isn't sufficient to give them powers they covet. They've mostly succeeded, as they are now so impossible to kill that if even one cell survives, the whole individual can grow back. A nuke would merely piss them off. They've been trying to cement their immortality by trying to add Phoenix DNA to their species. And they've even scaring the godlike energy beings called the Vecerti, because some of them have figured out how to Ascend to energy beings, even jumping back and forth from energy to mortal and back again so they can break the Vecerti's rules with impunity. And the kind of energy they can become now is basically toxic to all other life forms.
Despite all this, though, they're not really evil. They've no desire to commit genocide, though they do tend to treat other Sapients with disinterest at best or - at worst - as unwilling research subjects. Several groups have forgiven the "lesser creatures" and, out of a kind of loneliness, are trying to bring several other species up to their level, or close.

Basically, the whole moral of the Harun story is "Be careful who you demonize, or you may turn them into a real demon." And I suspect it was inspired by my own demonic rage at the bullying I endured growing up. And I must be honest: the Harun are evil and frakking terrifying; I hope to Gods they aren't real (at least not the evil version) in any universe, and I hope and pray I never meet one. But I think I like them even more than the Ah'Koi Bahnis. If I ever did meet one, I hope it would be one of the ones that want to uplift others to their level. As long as the process wouldn't change me emotionally to be like them. Ugh. I can't even stand the Vulcan level of emotionlessness, despite the fact I have my moments of it myself.
>> *Tweets this* <<

Thank you for the signal boost!

>>Have I told you about a species I have in my main fantasy world, a species called the Harun Daha Dahe {hah-roon dah-hah dah-hey} (Harun for short)?<<

I think they sound familiar, but the additional detail here is fascinating.

>> Basically, the whole moral of the Harun story is "Be careful who you demonize, or you may turn them into a real demon." <<

Exactly!

In my science fantasy universe, the silicos -- a race of sentient androids -- bascially shot themselves in the foot like this. They were unable to lie, and they could share memories. But they developed this big damn prejudice, eventually, against individuals who 'woke up' spontaneously instead of being conceived. Devile, devil child. And silicos who get ostractized tend to wind up not being very sane. After a while, one of them learned how to lie, and what began as desperate self-preservation turned into a campaign of spite against the oppressors. It was a disaster for some time. They did eventually learn how to dream, and how to be more creative, though.

In real life, evidence indicates that embattling a population to quash terrorism tends to generate fresh terrorists rather rapidly.

>>And I must be honest: the Harun are evil and frakking terrifying; I hope to Gods they aren't real (at least not the evil version) in any universe, and I hope and pray I never meet one. <<

That's why I discourage people from abusing or dehumanizing each other. I know where that leads. For the end does not justify the means: the means determine the end.
It was quite terrifying to discover a Mask calling itself Fiimaik {fee make}, one of the Harun, inside me. Even scarier when it spoke to Lilla, quite matter-of-factly and emotionlessly talking about how humans were interesting vermin to experiment on. I later found out Pi was responsible for Fiimaik popping up, since Masks need a Face driving them. But this happened before we knew about Pi.
"Fiimaik" is Trai'Pahg'Nan'Nog for "Nothing." Its name came from the old name for a Harun, the human slur of "nothingness" or "nothing." The implication being that even plants and animals are something, and the Harun were nothing. A nickname they later came to reclaim.
>>It was quite terrifying to discover a Mask calling itself Fiimaik {fee make}, one of the Harun, inside me. <<

0_o Yeah, that's alarming.

"Fiimaik" is Trai'Pahg'Nan'Nog for "Nothing."

I am vividly reminded of Captain Nemo.
Did you read my Vampire Vignette a few weeks ago? It's the same spectrum of feeding.

I was teased and bullied. I was an empath. I could never explain to anyone why what they said upset me so much. It wasn't what they said, it was what they felt at me, about me. When I was a kid, there were no words in my lexicon to express this, and if there were, I would have been thought insane.

Even the people who don't kill themselves? They are partially eaten, with huge bites out of their souls, some of which will never heal, just scar over with hurt or rage. If a predator gnaws your leg off, even if you later get a prosthetic, it just isn't the same as being whole.
>>Did you read my Vampire Vignette a few weeks ago? It's the same spectrum of feeding.<<

No, I just read it now, and I would hate to have missed that! It is brilliant. I have pimped it in a separate post so more folks will see it.

>>I was an empath. I could never explain to anyone why what they said upset me so much. It wasn't what they said, it was what they felt at me, about me. When I was a kid, there were no words in my lexicon to express this, and if there were, I would have been thought insane.<<

Yeah, empathy is one of the talents that tends to ruin a person's life if left untrained. And telling someone that their life-shattering experiences aren't real is a pretty reliable way to break them into little pieces. (It's actually a sophisticated torture technique, if you get a ruthless enough resource to admit it: having a handful of people gang up on someone and tear down their mind by all agreeing with each other to describe some frame of reality divergent from the victim's own.)

>>Even the people who don't kill themselves? They are partially eaten, with huge bites out of their souls, some of which will never heal, just scar over with hurt or rage. If a predator gnaws your leg off, even if you later get a prosthetic, it just isn't the same as being whole.<<

Yeah, that's common, though not universal. There are always a few targets who are social teflon, or just have a super-high regenerative capacity; but most of the time at least some of the damage is permanent.
Even the people who don't kill themselves? They are partially eaten, with huge bites out of their souls, some of which will never heal, just scar over with hurt or rage. If a predator gnaws your leg off, even if you later get a prosthetic, it just isn't the same as being whole.

Yes.
(added to memories)

So, so true.
I'd like to repost this in my journal. If I may, how would you like me to do so--with attribution to you, or as anonymous?

This is too good an analogy not to pass on.
I think the best would be to copy the whole content of my post, where I start with the reference to what cbpotts said followed by my own expansion about energy, and just include a pointer link back here.
That's about just what I wanted to do--thanks for permission!

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