You know what kind of things actually contribute to juvenile delinquency? Hunger. Spousal battery. Sexual abuse. Homelessness. Illiteracy. Addiction. Bullying. Racism. But those are big, expensive, complicated problems to solve. It's a lot easier to attack ideas than practical problems. But these aren't problems that can be spackled over.
The Right to Free Expression
You know what kind of things actually contribute to juvenile delinquency? Hunger. Spousal battery. Sexual abuse. Homelessness. Illiteracy. Addiction. Bullying. Racism. But those are big, expensive, complicated problems to solve. It's a lot easier to attack ideas than practical problems. But these aren't problems that can be spackled over.
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Passing and enforcing a bill like that's expensive
September 21 2010, 04:12:00 UTC 10 years ago
As you and I both know, it's sort of hard to read a book and play a computer game at the same time.
I'm actually very grateful to Halo, which was the catalyst to finally get my great-nephew Jacob hooked on books like the rest of the family. One of the kids he hung out with in a gamer club at school started passing him Halo novelizations, and he couldn't put them down. He started asking for them for birthdays and holiday gifts. Then he started reading EVERYTHING. Now he has to be dragged out of a book bodily.
Re: Passing and enforcing a bill like that's expensive
September 21 2010, 04:15:56 UTC 10 years ago
Re: Passing and enforcing a bill like that's expensive
September 21 2010, 05:56:46 UTC 10 years ago
But it really helps when you can give someone a physical object and say, "Hey, this relates to your interest, and I think it's pretty good stuff!"
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September 21 2010, 16:40:14 UTC 10 years ago
On the internet, it is widely known in free countries that censoring software is deeply flawed in its basic functioning (not by lack of quality coding, but because no form of censorship truly blocks only what it intends, and someone with a personal grudge can fairly easily skew the censors' lists; also it is often difficult to be removed from such lists once on them, just as we have seen with government no-fly lists and similar groupings and files) and can be disabled or defeated relatively easily.
Now, you can, as with alcohol, enforce point of sale bans. All games are voluntarily rated by industry members and watchdogs. But I find this an interesting point: once past the point of sale, who is to prevent the transfer and otherwise enforce the law? It's teenage drinking all over again, as someone says "Buy me that game and I'll give you five bucks" and someone else says "Okay, here ya go."
Misuse of alcohol is greatly contributory to teenage deaths and hospitalization, as well as personal disarray; teens are more likely to go wild on it and mistreat the substance, having not grown up respecting it.
Give a teenager a violent video game, and they are unlikely to grab a gun and shoot up their classroom... unless they were already disturbed and likely to do so. Give a small child a violent video game, and you have committed a wrong -- but the small child probably would not, could not, have purchased that game on their own anyway, law or no law! How would they get to the vendor, and where did they get the money for it? Someone has to directly enable that.
Is "violence" an unprotected form of speech? Can you define it as being "obscene", a term understood to refer to gross and blatant displays of human sexuality which are beyond the bounds of communication between persons?
Next you'll argue to lock up the comic books, because superheroes hit people, and social degenerates read them!
Thoughts
September 21 2010, 20:13:14 UTC 10 years ago
I simply don't trust a warning or labeling system whose parameters are not clearly visible. If I can't see the bias to compensate for it, the data is useless to me.
Bans and blocks largely teach people how to bootleg and hack. We had an interesting lesson about that with Prohibition, which I wish people would've learned more thoroughly.
The world is a dangerous place. We cannot pad all of its corners. Part of growing up includes learning how to recognize and cope with dangers so as to minimize risk and maximize benefit. Part of a parent's job is to teach children those analytical safety skills, and to make an appropriate shift -- tailored to each child -- from completely baby-safe items through moderately child-safe items to adult things like cars and condoms where a mistake can cost lives. Hold the safetys on past the point when Nature declares internal progress, and that causes a whole bunch of problems.
Thoughts
September 21 2010, 20:06:56 UTC 10 years ago
No. I'm okay with content-warning-labels. Those allow parents to make an informed decision about what they will allow their children or teens to play. Age recommendations are a good guide too. Some store owners might decide to cater to a particular age group, and might not want the more violent games to be stocked.
What I'm against is having an outside agency make those decisions for everyone. That's unconstitutional. Our ancestors fought a war so we'd have the right to make our own mistakes.
>>I've seen plenty of parents who don't really do much parenting.<<
That's true. I'm not happy about that. But you know what? There's already an underlying safety feature to account for that: natural selection. Poorly raised offspring have a lower rate of reproductive success. That's the ruthlessly practical approach.
>> When parents don't parent, it may be up to the government to do the parenting. It's not an ideal situation by any means, but last I checked, we don't live in an ideal world.<<
The more civilized approach is that, if parents are found to be incapable of parenting, their children are removed and placed elsewhere. (This is sometimes out of the frying pan, into the fire, but at least the theory is sensible.) If the parents are not that dysfunctional, then the government doesn't have a right to meddle.
You can see why I confuse and annoy both my liberal and my conservative friends.
September 21 2010, 20:58:32 UTC 10 years ago
1) several of the shooters in school gun incidents deliberately trained their aim and killing skills using ultra-violent games.
2) Several gangs have published games in California with the express intent of recruiting kids into the gang culture. The scenarios for these games are scripts for gang conduct, including beatings and rape. Funding for companies that write, program and release these games have been traced back to prominent gang members. (There is also major crossover with the music industry. Being alerted to some common gang signs has made it nearly impossible for me to watch music awards or music videos without identifying many artists as either Crips or Bloods.)
3) There is a correlation between youth who buy and play games with an anti-law bent and those who later commit violent crime.
The officers were very firm and vocal in advocating that youth not have these games available to them.
They state that if such games were unavailable, the shooters would not have been able to kill as many people as they had, for lack of practice.
Gangs would not have as many willing recruits.
The cops used the phrase "violence porn" throughout the presentation.
After this presentation, I think I can see why lawmakers were moved to do something. It seems like something simple to implement, that if you believe cops, will make a positive change. "Violence Porn" sounds like something to protect children from, indeed.
I, however, do not think that correlation means causation.
I think that a ratings system like that used in the movies, which VOLUNTARILY restricts entries to R or NC-17 movies without an adult, without being criminal is better than criminalizing the creation and sale of games. The movie theaters check ID, and choose whether or not to admit the youth.
In college, our town had two comics shops: a news stand called Young's with soda pop and candy, and a gamer/comic shop. The news stand was run by a Christian who would not sell comics to youth under 18 if the comic was not approved by the comic's code, unless the parent was present, or provided written permission to be on file with him for the child to have certain titles.
This meant that some series, like the X-Men, could be hard for youth to buy if there was a cliffhanger in which Magneto had the X-Men captured and helpless, for the "approved" box cannot be on the cover of a magazine in which the bad guy is "winning." Young realized he might lose sales, but still made it his policy. But parents LOVED his store, because every one knew the rules, and there were established ways children could access the materials at his store. Checks and balances.
And, if the kids couldn't be bothered to get Mom's approval, there was always the gamer/comic store around the corner, if they dared brave the college crowd.
I hope the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund is successful in its efforts to help, because I think the way comics shops operate currently works fairly well.
As a mom, I keep track of what games my kids play. "City of Heroes" is okay, "City of Villains" must wait.
September 22 2010, 00:47:23 UTC 10 years ago
"You know what kind of things actually contribute to juvenile delinquency? Hunger. Spousal battery. Sexual abuse. Homelessness. Illiteracy. Addiction. Bullying. Racism."
I know this will shock you, but believe it or not, human beings actually do have free will, and the ability to choose their actions. Do these factors help? Absolutely not. But you demean the humanity of those you seek to protect and defend by claiming that they are products of circumstance who have no control over their actions.