Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
Elizabeth Barrette
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Science and Religion on Creation

The point of science is not to prove or disprove religious principles.  It is to examine how the world works.

Now, I personally consider science and spirituality to be harmonious.  They don't have to conflict, although if you mess with them you can make that happen.  I understand that considering them to be opponents is a popular idea.  But I don't think it's very good for either science or religion.  There's nothing that says the Divine cannot use science to set up a universe.  The fact that the wind can make snowballs doesn't mean I can't do it myself.

And this?  This would have happened whether evolution or God(s) created the life forms for a planet, because both would design ones that fit the given environment.
Hawking says the first blow to Newton's belief that the universe could not have arisen from chaos was the observation in 1992 of a planet orbiting a star other than our Sun. "That makes the coincidences of our planetary conditions – the single sun, the lucky combination of Earth-sun distance and solar mass – far less remarkable, and far less compelling as evidence that the Earth was carefully designed just to please us human beings," he writes.

Anyhow, the science behind this article about the creation of the universe is interesting, but the implications are ... poorly handled, in my opinion.  Even smart people say dumb things sometimes.  This is just ... WTF.
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  • 5 comments
marina_bonomi

marina_bonomi

September 2 2010, 21:22:10 UTC 10 years ago

Totally and wholehartedly in agreement with you.
endlessrarities

endlessrarities

September 3 2010, 18:37:14 UTC 10 years ago

I honestly believe that human beings cannot function properly without some belief in a higher order. Whether that's some form of god, animism or merely a reliance on the rational order of scientific reason is neither here nor there.

Richard Dawkins drives me mad because he's such a bigoted fundamentalist aetheist!!
ysabetwordsmith

Hmm...

ysabetwordsmith

September 3 2010, 20:48:45 UTC 10 years ago

>>I honestly believe that human beings cannot function properly without some belief in a higher order. Whether that's some form of god, animism or merely a reliance on the rational order of scientific reason is neither here nor there.<<

My observations suggest that this is often beneficial, but not necessarily required for healthy function. And it only works if the belief model is a decent one -- bad models or misapplications of good models have caused a great deal of human wreckage.
endlessrarities

Re: Hmm...

endlessrarities

September 3 2010, 20:54:57 UTC 10 years ago

Half the time the belief model itself is okay, once you strip it right back down to basics. Usually it runs along the lines of 'take care of and respect the world that you have been given by whatever deity, be charitable towards those who are weak and in need of assistance, and live moderately without too much ostentation and over-consumption.'

But Humanity always seems to misinterpret, muck things up and generally distort the inner message for its own ends....

Oh dear...
ysabetwordsmith

Too true...

ysabetwordsmith

September 3 2010, 22:36:43 UTC 10 years ago

That meets my observations as well. I mean, how many times has humanity been told that usury is bad and not to do it? And they always come up with some excuse to do it anyway, and then the next update has to repeat, "No, really, that thing about not making each other broke, I MEANT THAT."

But if you want a sane mortgage, look for the Muslim "halal" version, they're still on that page.