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Effective Counter-Protest at Comic-Con

Prior to Comic-Con, a group of Baptists announced their intention to protest.  Okay, it's America, free expression is a right.  What exactly were they protesting?  Oh ... idolatry.  *ponder*  They actually had a point in terms of pouring energy into an image to give it power, although most comic readers would not use the terms "idol" or "worship" in reference to comics.  As we shall see shortly, however, the power and the images may have actually played an active role in this event.

So the Baptist protesters showed up to find ... a fannish counter-protest.  A horde of fans, mostly in costumes and waving magnificently creative signs, demonstrated in favor of diversity and whimsy and good plain fun.  The Baptists quickly left.  There was no violence -- the fans simply weirded them away.  Highly conservative people evidently are not comfortable with brightly colored spandex and signs that say "God Loves Gay Robin."


One of the guest speakers also posted an account of the convention, with a mention of the protest and counter-protest.

Two interesting things occur to me here: 

1) On a practical level, this counter-protest worked.  It is therefore worth remembering in case other groups need to stage a counter-protest later.

2) According to Huna, or Hawaiian shamanism, "Energy flows where attention goes."  Comics are popular; lots of people read them.  Many of the characters are based on archetypes.  A few are even based on deities.  (Note the Thor  sign reading "Odin Is God.")  A prevailing theme in comics is justice: the idea of fighting to make the world a better place.  Suppose we consider for a moment that there might be something to the idol-worship concept.  We have a bunch of people pouring their attention into symbols of justice, valor, and good; those symbols can sometimes take on a life of their own and deliver a boost when invoked.  When challenged, those comic fans dressed up like their heroes and stood up for what they believe in.  So in other words ... they did something heroic.  And it worked.  And nobody got hurt.  That is made of 100% gold-plated WIN.
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Hee! I like this. I do like this.

=)
HAHAHAHAHA. The Geek shall inherit the earth.
This reminds me strongly of this story that I heard from a friend a while back.
I love it. Thank you for sharing!

Yeah, once Trickster energy comes to the party, you might as well pack up your overly serious attitude and go home. The more you try to fight it, the stupider you will look.

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ladymondegreen

10 years ago

Re: *laugh*

ysabetwordsmith

10 years ago

Considering it was Westboro Baptist Church and only had four adherents who were willing to 'protest' for Phred Phelps' skewed interpretation of the Bible, I think more than justice was done.

WBC and Phred are not highly conservative but radically conservative and vocal in their hate of anyone who is Not Them.

You are much kinder than I.
I think they're nuts, but I believe that nuts have a right to express their opinions too, as long as they don't harm other people in the process. On this particular occasion, America's ideals worked. That's a good thing.

siege

10 years ago

Yes...

ysabetwordsmith

10 years ago

It really isn't fair to call them a group of Baptists. Although the organization is officially the "Westboro Baptist Church," it is essentially a large family of whack jobs who picket anywhere they can get attention (military funerals, etc.) and sue the bejeezus out of people. Their big complaint is that the US is too lenient about gays (but I think they would say that about Nazi Germany, too).

They only planned to picket the con for about 45 minutes. Their main purpose in San Diego was to picket a speech by Al Gore.
This. I may have disagreements with the doctrine of the Southern Baptists, but they are practically rainbow-waving lefties compared to the dangerous nutbars of Westboro Baptist Church. They've been disavowed by just about everyone sane.

Thoughts

ysabetwordsmith

10 years ago

minor_architect

10 years ago

Well...

ysabetwordsmith

10 years ago

Re: Well...

siege

10 years ago

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ysabetwordsmith

10 years ago

Re: Well...

siege

10 years ago

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ysabetwordsmith

10 years ago

minor_architect

10 years ago

Re: Thoughts

rowyn

10 years ago

Re: Thoughts

ysabetwordsmith

10 years ago

It's not 'a group of Baptists'. It's the Westboro Baptist Church. The Baptists officially disavow them - meaning that while they have "Baptist" in their name, they are not 'a group of Baptists.' Your craft is words - you should understand the difference.

Second, having foci is *not* the same as idol worship. The power of foci, of symbols, should not be diluted or confused by calling it 'idol worship', and trying to do that to emphasize the strength or positive nature of it is as *idiotic* as the Westboros calling it idol worship to emphasize their view of it as negative.

As for the counter-protest itself... I agree, 100% absolute pure win. Thank you for bringing that to our attention.
>>It's not 'a group of Baptists'. It's the Westboro Baptist Church. The Baptists officially disavow them - meaning that while they have "Baptist" in their name, they are not 'a group of Baptists.' Your craft is words - you should understand the difference.<<

As I explained in another reply, I believe in people's right to choose their own labels. If I want people to respect mine, and my friends', then I have to honor theirs -- even if I think the label isn't a very good match for the contents of the package.

>>Second, having foci is *not* the same as idol worship. The power of foci, of symbols, should not be diluted or confused by calling it 'idol worship', and trying to do that to emphasize the strength or positive nature of it is as *idiotic* as the Westboros calling it idol worship to emphasize their view of it as negative.<<

It's not the same, but it is related. I think that "idol worship" outside a purely religious context is kind of silly. But there is a point about symbols and energy exchange and the amount passionate attachment.

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wolfbrotherjoe

10 years ago

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ysabetwordsmith

10 years ago

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tyskkvinna

10 years ago

Hmm...

ysabetwordsmith

10 years ago

Re: Hmm...

wolfbrotherjoe

10 years ago

Westboro Baptist is an odd beast. Their goal is to protest anything that people care about: they are simply trying to piss people off. They are trolls, pure and simple.

Professional trolls. Their primary source of income is suing people who lose control and take a swing at them. Therefore, their goal is to annoy people to violence.

Everything else is secondary.

Therefore, having fun with them is the only sane response.
>>Professional trolls. Their primary source of income is suing people who lose control and take a swing at them. Therefore, their goal is to annoy people to violence.<<

Now that part ought to be illegal. One has a right to express one's opinion; one does not have a right to torment other people. *ponder* But I'm not sure there's a way to frame that so as to penalize professional trolling without also having a chilling effect on free expression.

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xiphias

10 years ago

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ysabetwordsmith

10 years ago

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xiphias

10 years ago

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ysabetwordsmith

10 years ago

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siege

10 years ago

Wicked! :D
Cosmic level win. :}
I absolutely LOVE the Buddy Christ guy..what a hoot.
"There was no violence -- the fans simply weirded them away."
I love it! Finally the perfect way to get rid of troublesome SB's!
:)
I would like to note that according to my cursory research, involving five top results on Google, Huna is not Hawaiian, but instead based on Hawaiian words (in some cases misused) and a few attractive ideas.

Even so, "attention gives energy" is a basic tenet of many different spiritual disciplines.
I was gonna say, I spent nine years there, and I never heard of "Huna" the whole time I was there. And although I wasn't a scholar by any means, I was FAR more aware of Hawaiian culture, history and spiritual practices than most of my shipmates, and probably some of the kama'aina.

If it's not in Martha Beckwith's "Hawaiian Mythology", then you should take it with a grain of salt.

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