So the Baptist protesters showed up to find ... a fannish counter-protest. A horde of fans, mostly in costumes and waving magnificently creative signs, demonstrated in favor of diversity and whimsy and good plain fun. The Baptists quickly left. There was no violence -- the fans simply weirded them away. Highly conservative people evidently are not comfortable with brightly colored spandex and signs that say "God Loves Gay Robin."
One of the guest speakers also posted an account of the convention, with a mention of the protest and counter-protest.
Two interesting things occur to me here:
1) On a practical level, this counter-protest worked. It is therefore worth remembering in case other groups need to stage a counter-protest later.
2) According to Huna, or Hawaiian shamanism, "Energy flows where attention goes." Comics are popular; lots of people read them. Many of the characters are based on archetypes. A few are even based on deities. (Note the Thor sign reading "Odin Is God.") A prevailing theme in comics is justice: the idea of fighting to make the world a better place. Suppose we consider for a moment that there might be something to the idol-worship concept. We have a bunch of people pouring their attention into symbols of justice, valor, and good; those symbols can sometimes take on a life of their own and deliver a boost when invoked. When challenged, those comic fans dressed up like their heroes and stood up for what they believe in. So in other words ... they did something heroic. And it worked. And nobody got hurt. That is made of 100% gold-plated WIN.
July 23 2010, 18:41:00 UTC 10 years ago
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July 24 2010, 02:12:31 UTC 10 years ago
Yeah, once Trickster energy comes to the party, you might as well pack up your overly serious attitude and go home. The more you try to fight it, the stupider you will look.
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July 23 2010, 18:55:01 UTC 10 years ago
WBC and Phred are not highly conservative but radically conservative and vocal in their hate of anyone who is Not Them.
You are much kinder than I.
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July 23 2010, 18:56:15 UTC 10 years ago
They only planned to picket the con for about 45 minutes. Their main purpose in San Diego was to picket a speech by Al Gore.
July 23 2010, 19:43:41 UTC 10 years ago
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July 23 2010, 19:20:35 UTC 10 years ago
Second, having foci is *not* the same as idol worship. The power of foci, of symbols, should not be diluted or confused by calling it 'idol worship', and trying to do that to emphasize the strength or positive nature of it is as *idiotic* as the Westboros calling it idol worship to emphasize their view of it as negative.
As for the counter-protest itself... I agree, 100% absolute pure win. Thank you for bringing that to our attention.
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July 23 2010, 20:19:32 UTC 10 years ago
As I explained in another reply, I believe in people's right to choose their own labels. If I want people to respect mine, and my friends', then I have to honor theirs -- even if I think the label isn't a very good match for the contents of the package.
>>Second, having foci is *not* the same as idol worship. The power of foci, of symbols, should not be diluted or confused by calling it 'idol worship', and trying to do that to emphasize the strength or positive nature of it is as *idiotic* as the Westboros calling it idol worship to emphasize their view of it as negative.<<
It's not the same, but it is related. I think that "idol worship" outside a purely religious context is kind of silly. But there is a point about symbols and energy exchange and the amount passionate attachment.
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July 23 2010, 19:37:35 UTC 10 years ago
Professional trolls. Their primary source of income is suing people who lose control and take a swing at them. Therefore, their goal is to annoy people to violence.
Everything else is secondary.
Therefore, having fun with them is the only sane response.
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July 23 2010, 20:21:21 UTC 10 years ago
Now that part ought to be illegal. One has a right to express one's opinion; one does not have a right to torment other people. *ponder* But I'm not sure there's a way to frame that so as to penalize professional trolling without also having a chilling effect on free expression.
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I love it! Finally the perfect way to get rid of troublesome SB's!
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July 24 2010, 05:17:30 UTC 10 years ago
Even so, "attention gives energy" is a basic tenet of many different spiritual disciplines.
Raised My Eyebrows!
July 24 2010, 06:43:46 UTC 10 years ago
If it's not in Martha Beckwith's "Hawaiian Mythology", then you should take it with a grain of salt.