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Cut to the Core - The Wordsmith's Forge
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reileen From: reileen Date: June 29th, 2010 07:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for this; I'll be printing it out and sticking it on a wall nearby to remind myself. :D I've been working mostly on improving the way I put things together (I am really, really bad with plotting), but this'll help me put that small stuff into perspective.
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: June 29th, 2010 08:00 pm (UTC) (Link)

Well...

If you do some digging, you can turn up sample plot arcs, subplot threads, plot motifs and devices, etc. I particularly like the book The Fiction Writer's Silent Partner. Online, consider resources such as:
http://www.books4results.com/samples/SevenStoryPlotPatterns/SevenStoryPlotPatterns.pdf
http://changingminds.org/disciplines/storytelling/plots/plots.htm
http://www.archetypewriting.com/muse/generators/plot.htm
http://www.maddogproductions.com/plotomatic.htm
http://www.gkbledsoe.com/articles/process/writing_prompt_generator.html
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage

A serious step up is the Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy which examines major works and tropes.

Now if you are hardcore, I must also recommend the Stith Thompson or Aarne-Thompson Folklore Motif index, which if you are lucky will be in the reference section of your library:
http://www.folklore.bc.ca/Motifindex.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aarne-Thompson_classification_system
AaTh gives about 2500 basic plots. This is arid scholarship ... making it juicy and delicious is the author's job.
reileen From: reileen Date: June 29th, 2010 08:43 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Well...

Oh, thanks so much for this list! I guess I should've thought about searching online, but I didn't think it'd be worth it to go through all the chaff when I own a number of books on writing.

(oh my gods, TVTropes. I was actually on there recently because I was trying to look for other works that did what I was currently doing in a story, and amazingly enough they don't seem to have a specific trope page for "hypnotic/brainwashing drug"! They have one for a brainwashing device and telepathic mind control and other stuff, but...)
ysabetwordsmith From: ysabetwordsmith Date: June 29th, 2010 09:22 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Well...

>>Oh, thanks so much for this list! I guess I should've thought about searching online, but I didn't think it'd be worth it to go through all the chaff when I own a number of books on writing.<<

Glad I could help! It took me a few minutes to refine the search to find what I wanted, but I knew it had to be out there.

It's not so much whether one has books on writing, as the right book for the current dilemma.

>> and amazingly enough they don't seem to have a specific trope page for "hypnotic/brainwashing drug"! <<

Huh ... you should suggest that to them. It's a recognizable trope.
reileen From: reileen Date: June 29th, 2010 09:52 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Well...

It's not so much whether one has books on writing, as the right book for the current dilemma.

Hmm, that's true.

Huh ... you should suggest that to them. It's a recognizable trope.

Yeah, I was surprised. I thought maybe I wasn't looking harder enough, but I couldn't find the page under the "Mind Control" tropes page or the "Drugs" page. I thought it'd be a subset of "Mind Control Devices" but it wasn't there either. So instead I'm simply re-reading my original inspiration for the idea (the main storyline of the manga Gunsmith Cats) and trying to figure out what I can use and what I need to change. I'll probably poke around on the general mind control pages again and see if anyone added drug-related ones in there.
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