Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
Elizabeth Barrette
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Bad Boys

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It's not a discussion I can join, unfortunately. I don't see the attraction of the Bad Boy - I'm drawn to the intelligent loner instead - Antryg, Spock, Data, Methos, Jupiter Jones, Severus Snape. I suppose that the last one might qualify as a "Bad Boy" but that's not the attraction. I feel his pain, his loneliness ... his aloneness ... while at the same time I'm attracted to his intelligence.

There is one "Bad Boy" to whom I can remember being drawn - Mr. Morden of Babylon 5. In that case, it was the joy of his smile that drew me.

I'll admit to adoring both Daemon and Lucifer, but not lusting - they are too well completed by their wives.
I'm not into bad boys for sex, but I have an idea why some people are. For me, they're fun buddies for roughhousing, battle, or girl-watching.
i love bad boys so harrrd thanks for linking to this :)

...although i hate all the ones that were listed, LOL
I'm glad you liked this. If you go there and list your favorites, there's a contest of some kind.
I commented about Mal Reynolds -- who may not qualify 100%, because he has a back story (the battle of Serenity Valley) that explains his dysfunction, although it doesn't excuse it.
Mal is functional enough, just frayed around the edges and none too easy with women.

Jayne, now -- he's a bad boy.
My dad was a good man, very nurturing, very stable. I idolized him. But bad boys are hawt. *sigh*
There's nothing wrong with variety, especially fantasies.
I wish I had a link for you, but there was an study done where a series of photographs was shown to women over a series of several months. Depending on the time of the month, the responses of the women varied - when they were at their most fertile, they had a significantly higher attraction to photos with connotations of 'bad boys', and at the opposite end, they had a significantly higher attraction to photos with connotations of 'stable life'.

I doubt that's the whole of it, but it's a data point, at any rate.
I've heard references to that sort of thing. It makes some sense.

From a genetic perspective, both types are useful to have in the gene pool, because a species needs them at different times. So there's a fair chance that a woman will get involved with a bad boy and have one child by him, but marry a more reliable partner who will be around to sire and raise several more children. Conversely a woman might start with a presumed reliable man who turns out to be a cad, so her children start out with him as the father but later she seeks out a bad boy instead.
I was going to comment in a similar vein, that bad boys have an illusion of being stronger and more aggressive.

Me, I've just always thought they were more honest. Give me an honest rebel over a lying white knight anyway.

Why would it be 'more honest' to be a bad boy?

aldersprig

11 years ago

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moriden

11 years ago

I do like the forthright ones. Some bad boys will lie like a carpet, which is not my preference. Others simply illustrate the fact that telling the truth tends to make you unpopular.

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filkferengi

11 years ago

It seems to me like they're lumping a lot of different things together and calling them all "bad boys"- everything from stone sociopaths to the independent-minded but honorable.

For example, I'm a sucker for the "reluctant hero" archetype, but have no interest in "bad boys" at all; I think they are very different, and I'm sure that, given time, I could define a number of other types that the author is all lumping together.

And I think there's a definite distinction between "bad boys" and "alpha males"- the first is more a lone wolf, while the second is powerful in his society. I think it's obvious that the appeal will be very different.

I used to say that I preferred beta males, but that's not really it; I like guys (and women!) who are adept enough to play society's game adequately to get what they want (within the bounds of a reasonable morality), but who are not blinded by it. Intelligence and savvy are really important, as is a sense of humor- that shows perspective.

My husband showed his chops this way when he got our kid full hospitalization coverage for a couple of her mental health incidents when the insurance company was fighting it tooth and nail- AND we managed to get her into a group home that I'm convinced saved her life, literally. That took us both seeing the rules and being successful at playing them.

>>It seems to me like they're lumping a lot of different things together and calling them all "bad boys"- everything from stone sociopaths to the independent-minded but honorable.<<

Yes, "bad boy" is a really broad archetype. It's everything from the good-for-nothing who knocks up his girlfriend and then dumps her, to the guy nobody likes because he won't tell social lies but then stops to help a stranger whose car is broken down. So there are a lot of subdivisions that could be made, and those are useful.

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