Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
Elizabeth Barrette
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AZ attempts another creative reinterpretation of the Constitution, this time seeking to deny the citizenship of Americans born to people who can't prove they are legal immigrants.

What did they do, hold a wishlist contest for all the racist laws people could think up?

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I think I see where they're going with this. See, once you've declared all of X group 'non-citizens', then the usual laws don't apply to them. So you're free to exploit the hell out of them, and if they object, you can use the 'terror' laws to deal with them and either deport them summarily or ship them off to some FEMA-built labour camp, of which Arizona has more than a few.
All variants of "nonperson" rulings are extremely convenient for those in power, and invite abuse, so should be opposed.
Well, this one is unconstitutional. OTOH, legit arguments have been made that the portion of the 14th amendment that grants children born on US soil automatic citizenship should be rescinded, as it was crafted basically to make sure the citizenship of liberated slaves would not be contested. So it is arguably a rule which has long outlived its intended purpose and usefulness and become a serious liability in the battle to control borders.

The problem with that is that it can potentially create problems of multiple generations of non-citizens. Descendants of Korean laborers in Japan (which does not grant citizenship to persons born on Japanese soil), for example, remain non-citizens, despite their families having lived in Japan since the early 20th century, most of them immigrating between the annexation of Korea in 1905 and the end of WWII. And yet, the grandchildren or great-grandchildren of those laborers, despite having no connection to Korea, are not considered citizens of Japan.
Japan is very, VERY anti-immigrant. They do not like foreigners. Frankly, Europe would have done well in some ways to follow their example. They would still be facing population decline, but at least they wouldn't be facing demograpic takeover.

Rescinding the relevant portion of the 14th doesn't have to lead to the problems you cite. A simple, sensible immigration policy of wide doors, high fences, and easy-to-follow rules for citizenship would easily solve it. Too bad D.C. refuses to either simplify the law or enforce the law it does have, thus creating the problem everybody here thinks AZ is so horrible for trying to deal with. Does everybody seriously think that if Mexicans were white, but Phoenix were still the kidnapping capital of the nation, that AZ would not be trying to pass this law?
Except that it's not true that undocumented immigrants are causing an increase in crime. Violent crime is at its lowest level since 1983, property crimes at their lowest level since 1968, despite vastly greater numbers of undocumented immigrants.

So, yes, I do think it's racist to blame Hispanic undocumented immigrants for a fictitious crime problem.
>>So, yes, I do think it's racist to blame Hispanic undocumented immigrants for a fictitious crime problem.<<

I agree.

However, I also think that an open-door immigration policy would be MUCH better at addressing the problems, most of which are caused by having large numbers of people in an exploitable position. Paper them all. Invite them in. Have them pay taxes.
However, I also think that an open-door immigration policy would be MUCH better at addressing the problems, most of which are caused by having large numbers of people in an exploitable position. Paper them all. Invite them in. Have them pay taxes.

I agree with you on that. Most of the problems with undocumented immigrants arises not from the immigrants themselves, but from their being placed outside the law's protections by their undocumented status.
It isn't legal to punish children for crimes committed by their parents. That already happens, when parents bring foreign-born children to America, often as infants, who grow up alongside American children but forever shut out of opportunities because they don't have the right paperwork. That's a severe problem; it needs to be solved, not worsened.
Wow. Why don't they just take the gloves off and say anyone with a drop of Mexican blood is denied US citizenship even if they already have it, so GTFO.
Arizona is starting to realize why that would be a problem. Their current direction is causing labor shortages in fields, meat-packing plants, and other places that depend on immigrant labor, especially easy-to-exploit undocumented workers.

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