Elizabeth Barrette (ysabetwordsmith) wrote,
Elizabeth Barrette
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Intent to Kill

Laid out in considerable detail, this post explores what happened to the deceased Gaza activists.  This is an excellent example of a basic premise: if you want captives, send police; if you want corpses, send soldiers.  Their training is different, and you get what you pay for.

I do not consider Israel a civilized nation.  (I wish it would have been, but sheesh and baksheesh, Germany  is accruing beans faster on the civilized side of the scale.)  I sincerely wish that America would stop sending money there.  It is funding atrocities.  This costs America a lot of civilized beans.
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raindrops

raindrops

June 6 2010, 22:10:43 UTC 11 years ago

Don't have time right now to add to the Israeli part of the discussion, but I have to make a point-of-order call here regarding cops vs. soldiers.

Most major US police forces are trained to empty their weapon if they fire it once. The (publicly stated) rationale for this is that if you're in a situation wherein you deem deadly force necessary, it should be lethal, period.

A major side effect of this is that there are a lot of extra-judicial sentences carried out against people who made the mistake of being in the wrong place, of not speaking the right language, etc.

I've been doing Copwatch for years, and have worked with the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights for several years as well. I'm not talking out my arse about this. I've witnessed firsthand 4 cops emptying and reloading and emptying their mags again, into an unarmed but belligerent suspect.

Cops pile up bodies just as readily as soldiers.
xiphias

xiphias

June 6 2010, 22:49:59 UTC 11 years ago

I wouldn't call that a point of order on "cops vs. soldiers".

Rather, I'd call that a real good reason to actually hire some police somewhere in the United States, rather than just having the police forces simply being the folks with the snappiest-looking gang colors.
ysabetwordsmith

Yes...

ysabetwordsmith

June 7 2010, 07:32:07 UTC 11 years ago

>>Rather, I'd call that a real good reason to actually hire some police somewhere in the United States, rather than just having the police forces simply being the folks with the snappiest-looking gang colors.<<

Precisely.

Besides, if the police are too brutal, that causes a whole cascade of other problems, such as: innocent people rightfully fear them too, so they run, which boosts your body count and outrages the citizenry (rightly so); and people won't call the police when it is appropriate to do so, because the police are likely to make matters worse instead of better, so then crimes don't get reported, which runs up the crime rate; and more people start taking the law into their own hands because the official law is a parsec away from actual justice, which creates much chaos and mayhem. Lots of countries have demonstrated variations on this slide into the abyss.