I do not consider Israel a civilized nation. (I wish it would have been, but sheesh and baksheesh, Germany is accruing beans faster on the civilized side of the scale.) I sincerely wish that America would stop sending money there. It is funding atrocities. This costs America a lot of civilized beans.
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I do not consider Israel a civilized nation. (I wish it would have been, but sheesh and baksheesh, Germany is accruing beans faster on the civilized side of the scale.) I sincerely wish that America would stop sending money there. It is funding atrocities. This costs America a lot of civilized beans.
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June 6 2010, 10:33:36 UTC 11 years ago
I am sorry. Seriously. But I will unfriend you. There is nothing further I would like to read from someone with such views.
Well...
June 6 2010, 15:08:02 UTC 11 years ago
You're entitled to your opinion, but I'm also entitled to mine. I believe that a country has the right to defend itself. I don't believe that it has the right to do so in ways that are overbearing and destructive to other nations. Whether it has the right to exist ... I think that wanting a homeland is a fine and reasonable goal, but based on observed actions, the Jews in Israel are making a painful mess of it. To me, that's disappointing. I'm not going to give them a free pass on obnoxious behavior just because they're Jews and have been victimized for centuries and finally have a place of their own. They're wrecking it -- and that's not a surprise, given that most of the Middle East is a wreck and they've been culturally traumatized for ages. But it is a problem, and now it's their problem.
>> FYI, Israel is a very civilized nation, a very developed nation to say the least and there is enough evidence out there to prove this. <<
Sorry, but what I have seen of Israel's behavior does not qualify it as civilized on my scale. Neither is the United States, in which I live, or some other countries whose behavior I've criticized before. Humanity is a rough race yet. You're entitled to use a different standard for civilization if you wish, but that doesn't allow you to take away my standard.
>> This comment is made out of ignorance and hatred. <<
That statement is factually inaccurate. I've studied history; I have an awareness of Jewish background and how Israel was formed and a fair number of things it's done since it was formed. Those things play into the current situation. I don't hate Jews; I find the culture interesting. I don't hate Israel, but I am increasingly frustrated by its behavior and the amount of trouble it is causing for itself and other people. It is entirely possible to disapprove on a logical and practical level.
>> I am sorry. Seriously. But I will unfriend you. There is nothing further I would like to read from someone with such views. <<
If you can't handle the differences of opinion, then yes, that's a good idea. Not all of my opinions are nice ones, because the world is full of troublesome people and problems, and I'm shy about calling them out.
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June 6 2010, 17:06:06 UTC 11 years ago
and expressing that opinion harshly as well...
and you're free to do that, of course,
I'm just pointing it out to you...
Re: Well...
June 6 2010, 20:24:59 UTC 11 years ago
I'm not innately tactful. I can apply the premise of "gently if possible, firmly if necessary" to a certain extent. But I am a much better sledgehammer than a sand mallet. About the time permanent or fatal damage is done, is usually one of the more consistent thresholds at which I quit trying to apply constructive criticism with a measure of grace, and just resort to some flavor of WTF.
June 6 2010, 16:55:30 UTC 11 years ago
but unfriending someone who holds such an opinion
will give you an increasingly insulated view of the world.
The Israeli action was undeniably brutal,
but in as much as Nebraska has never experienced rocket attacks
or suicide bombings carried out by Iowans,
I'm in no position to condemn the actions of a nation
living under such a threat and seeking to negate that threat.
June 7 2010, 00:08:23 UTC 11 years ago
As for the Gazans, think about this. There were 6 ships. People were only killed on one of the ships. Those on the other five ships stated that they stuck to "passive resistance" techniques. Nobody was killed on those ships. On the sixth ship, this happened:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LulDJh4fWI&feature=related
Are these the people you call hapless victims of Israeli brutality?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk
This whole blockade started because Gaza fired thousands of rockets into Israeli territory onto Israeli civilians. The flotilla was a PR tool to hit Israel with and an attempt to break the blockade. It worked on the first part; whether it worked on the second has yet to be seen. I hope for Israel's sake that it does not.
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